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Re: degree and SCPHN registration

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I have heard good things about this MSc too, an understanding of workplace
psychology will be invaluable in the practice setting. One of my current OHN
studentsin addition to being a nurse is a Chartered Occupational
Psychologist and we all gain immeasurably from her contributions in the
classroom and to this JISC list.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the goalposts keep moving, they
don't. Only holders of the RCN (OHNC) or ENB validated courses DOHN then
BSc and more recently NMC validated SCPHN courses can register with the NMC
as a SCPHN. The reason being that each of these courses had to meet exacting
and very specific practice and theory standards set by either the RCN or
statutory body. Those of us who developed ENB/NMC courses were often pulling
our hair out to get what OHNS needed within the way courses are/were
delivered. Programmes not validated by those bodies do not and have never
confered registration as a SCPHN.

The course directors of the Diploma courses delivered at Uni Glam and
Warwick did so for very good reasons,they could develop quality courses
without having to jump through ENB/NMC hoops nor did they have to
demonstrate core learning outcomes shared with other primary health care
nurses such as HVs/SNs.

Perhaps the time has come to develop an alternative body which validates OH
Nursing courses - the Council for Work and Health could be a route to that.
The Council are working behind the scenes with the NMC. Diana Kloss as the
Chair of the Council has been very supportive. Helen Kirk and I accompanied
Diana at a meeting with Prof Dickon Weir-Hughes Chief Executive and
Registrar of the NMC and Roger Thompson Director of Nursing and Midwifery
Policy and Standards. A number of concerns included in the paper I referred
to in an earlier email were raised with them.

 Those of you who feel strongly about an alternative body could always
contact Diana at the Council.

Anne
Course Director
London South Bank University




On 10/06/2011 11:20, "Sian Edwards" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I agree with Jane. I decided against doing the SCPHN courses as I too feel
> that the goal posts are always moving and that the NMC whilst doing its
> mandated task of protecting the public does not actually understand what it is
> that OH nurses do. I opted for a masters in workplace health (effectively
> occupational health psychology) and am now half way through the two year
> course. I can't speak highly enough of the course, the teaching staff the
> quality of visiting lecturers or the strong student/alumni links.
> I did the Warwick diploma too and it allowed me onto the MSc course despite my
> lack of first degree. It has certainly helped me in my work and learning. The
> MSc course is very much geared to working professionals and is delivered by
> 'blended learning' which means that 3 of the 8 modules are 3 day workshops on
> campus in Nottingham and the other 5 (including the research project) are
> delivered online. In my cohort there are a variety of professionals (including
> OH, H&S, Welfare, even a retiree) and nationals including students from
> Gibraltar, Botswana, Sudan and South Africa which makes for lively learning
> environment.
> Having praised it up (as I say I really can't speak highly enough of this
> course) the link is:
> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/iwho/prospective/mscworkplacehealth/index.aspx
> And the course director (who is very approachable) is Jonathan Houdmont
> [log in to unmask]
>
> The next course starts in September.
> Hope that helps
> Siān
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