Hi Matts
Thanks for the info. I will also pass on to Ross Gardler, as he is now
a mentor for this Incubator proposal [1]. Do keep me in the loop.
I do think we should add someone from the a11y space to the initial
list of contributors so do you folks have any nominations? Pete Brunet
comes to mind, if he is willing.
Perhaps I am being simplistic but the OOo base appears to be the core
codebase and LO, Symphany etc are derivations. Obviously the politics
are more complex, but getting into OOo under Apache will allow
adoption into others, if they choose to use it. Finally getting IA2
into OOo would be fantastic for all a11y users (and I suppose,
testers).
With Regards to CCF , that is great and pleased to see it maturing. If
it is available for the a11yhack event on 21 Jul I can introduce it.
I'm very interested in links to Straight Street Mulberry symbols and
API. Plus there are potential links with W3C widgets via Apache Wookie
(Incubating) and Rave (Incubating) and we're working on a project in
this space. There are a couple of symbol ideas on realisepotential.com
and you might like to add your thoughts there (we're running a
workshop today).
Steve
1:http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal
2011/6/6 Mats Lundälv <[log in to unmask]>:
> Hi Steve and all,
>
> The news has just reached us AEGIS folks this week, and Peter Korn has
> suggested that we should strongly consider to bring the CCF and other OO.org
> related AEGIS work into the Apache process.
> However, as you say, there is still a lot of debate and uncertainties about
> what this move from Oracle really means for the future relations between the
> current OpenOffice and LibleOffice branches, and I think we need to have
> some more information about this before deciding how to position ourselves
> for the CCF work - which we want to keep available for both versions,
> and which is also not restricted to ambitions only in relation to
> Open/LibreOffice.
>
> Here is a quote from information we got from Christophe Strobbe at KU Leuven
> with some links to comments that touch on the accessibility issues you bring
> up Steve:
>
> "...OpenOffice.org will start as an incubator project; acceptance is not
> automatic but several IBM employees "welcome the expected (and unexpected)
> participation in OpenOffice.org efforts that will start to materialize
> shortly" (or at least Ed Brill does); see their comments at:
> * Ed Brill:
> <http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf/dx/openoffice-moving-to-apache-good-news-for-the-desktop-productivity-market>,
> * Bob Sutor:
> <http://www.sutor.com/c/2011/06/some-remarks-on-openoffice-going-to-apache/>,
> * Rob Weir (member of the ODF committee):
> <http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/apache-openoffice.html>
> Ed Brill also mentions the accessibility work that IBM submitted to
> OpenOffice.org (notably IAccessible2 implementation for Windows). I hope
> that will be part of the donation.
>
> None of the above statements mentions the Document Foundation. The response
> by the Document Foundation is available at
> <http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/>.
> ..."
> Btw: We now have a rather decent 2nd alpha version of our CCF symbol support
> extension for Open/LibreOffice (3.2/3.3) Writer, which will very soon be
> ready for wider testing via the AEGIS download links.
> In fact, it is not only an extension for OO.org, but a separate CCF Symbol
> Server that is providing symbol support in cooperation with the OO.org
> extension. Eventually this server could also provide these language/symbol
> support services to other applications or services, e.g. to a web browser,
> or to an on-screen symbol selection set, or to server side applications.
> I'll come back sooon when we go more public with this.
>
> Cheers,
> Mats
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> Från: Steve Lee <[log in to unmask]>
> Sänt av: Open Source Assistive Technology <[log in to unmask]>
> Datum: 2011-06-03 21:29
> Ärende: Open Office to enter Apache Foundation
>
> In a move causing a LOT of debate, Oracle have proposed they give the
> OOo code to Apache Foundation. This would provide a neutral home for
> the core code under a permissive licence and with the benefit of
> Apache's excellent community development support.
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal
>
> Firstly I think it would be good for someone to put themselves down as
> an initial contributor with accessibility interests the accessibility
> point of view. Who could that be? Someone from the AEGIS work?
>
> Secondly what is the status of OOo accessibility and related projects
> and what future developments are desirable. I understand iA2 on
> Windows is in a state of stuck. Are there other gaps that need
> addressing for compelling ODF accessability? What about the AEGIS
> symbols/ccf work and DAISY converters?
>
> Finally How important is ODF accessibility to the community and what
> funding or business opportunities are there that could support further
> a11y work?
>
> Steve Lee
>
> Full Measure - open source accessibility - http://fullmeasure.co.uk
>
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