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Re: You have just watched a dead man being re-killed

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Martyn Lee <[log in to unmask]>

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Martyn Lee <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 4 May 2011 21:01:05 +0000

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I agree and thank you

There are many sites where this sort of exchange is appropriate and this is not one

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From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Laughey, Daniel [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 04 May 2011 21:59
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: You have just watched a dead man being re-killed

Actually I find this email exchange deeply offensive, and would ask the relevant administrator to remove Rose from the list and ensure this individual is not allowed to air his garbage in future.
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From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of [log in to unmask] [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 04 May 2011 19:47
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: You have just watched a dead man being re-killed

Hi David,

This is the first email from MeCCSA list that has stirred my brains in yonks. Please don't unsubscribe.

In solidarity,

Jen

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "David Rose" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, May 4, 2011 19:21
Subject: You have just watched a dead man being re-killed
To: <[log in to unmask]>

Hi Dyfrig,

You are a "service intellectual".

If your department or your University was closed down, nobody would miss
you or your sad, controlled thoughts. That's why the ConDems can get
away with the cuts.

The whole world is laughing at this Osama Bin Laden story.

Now they are laughing at you, Dyfrig.

Please unsubscribe me from this email list.  I couldn't care less.

I've got better things do do than debate with closed, controlled
"minds" like yours.

cheers

David

ps: the White House has just decided NOT to release any photos of the dead OBL.
The whole world now laughs as the American Empire collapses before our eyes.
The US Empire has got no intellectual or moral credibility, Dyfrig
...a bit like you?


On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Dyfrig Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear David,
>                    Respectfully, I don't think that your response to Marcus
> was either courteous, or suitable for sending out to the whole MeCSSA list.
> To be honest, I don't think that your original comments merited inclusion on
> the mailing list, either.  While I have a research interest in Paranoia and
> Conspiracy Theory, I'm perfectly capable of navigating the darkest corners
> of the internet to find examples of the latest lunatic ravings. I don't need
> them mailed directly to my already very busy work email. In future, can I
> suggest that you use the MeCSSA list only for academic purposes?
>
> Dyfrig
>
> On 04/05/2011 16:50, David Rose wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> The whole world is laughing about the ridiculous "official story" put
>> out by the White House concerning Osama bin Laden's new "re-death".
>>
>> If you want to belong to the "idiot group" who are being laughed at,
>> that's your choice.
>>
>> You can take your offensive, prejudiced "Elvis" comments and stick
>> them where the sun don't shine.
>>
>> Please let real academics - ie: those academics who endeavour to speak
>> truth to power - get on with their jobs.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-we-love-to-hate-conspiracy-theories.html
>>
>> Why we love to hate conspiracy theories: 911 Truth as threat to the
>> intelligentsia
>> by Denis G. Rancourt
>>
>> Especially left and liberal professionals and service intellectuals
>> but also right-wing members of the intelligentsia vehemently attack
>> and ridicule “conspiracy theories” such as the present 911 Truth
>> movement.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> It’s as though power did not covertly orchestrate its predation of us?
>> Is that not the modus operandi of power?
>>
>> Is it so difficult to believe that the complex and highly successful
>> military attack on US soil that was 911 (levelling three gigantic sky
>> scrapers, blasting a hole into the Pentagon, and destroying four
>> commercial jets and their passengers) was not orchestrated by a
>> religious zealot from a cave in Afghanistan and executed by failed
>> Cessna pilot trainees with box cutters? Or that those who measurably
>> benefited in the trillions had nothing to do with it?
>>
>> What the hell? Not even (admittedly rare) authoritative mainstream
>> reports seem to matter [1].
>>
>> What ever happened to “war is a racket” and “follow the money”?
>>
>> In rigorous compliance with the true meanings of "academic freedom"
>> [2] and "freedom of the press" virtually no academics or mainstream
>> journalists have made it their research to find truth or to radically
>> (at the root) question the establishment version.
>>
>> Indeed, all the major and considered-radical academic pundits such as
>> Noam Chomsky and Ward Churchill, have actively avoided the possibility
>> that the 911 attacks could have been known or aided from within the
>> finance-corporate-military complex.
>>
>> What keeps them from crossing that line? What makes them demean
>> attempts to cross that line? [3]
>>
>> Similarly, even outspoken dissident parliamentary politicians such as
>> George Galloway have ridiculed the concerns of 911 truthers (at his
>> last public talk in Ottawa).
>>
>> Is such self and projected censorship by star intellectuals only the
>> result of the fear of being mobbed by ridicule? Is asking these
>> questions in public fora so dangerous?
>>
>> When barred and suppressed Afghan Member of Parliament Malalai Joya
>> was asked about 911 by a truther in Ottawa last year she replied that
>> those who sought answers in this matter should address their questions
>> to the occupiers of the White House. To this writer’s knowledge, this
>> is the furthest that any politician has gone in this direction, coming
>> from “the bravest woman in Afghanistan” no less.
>>
>> But what shocked the present writer more is the derision to which was
>> subjected the truther at the Malalai Joya Ottawa event, at the hands
>> of an “activist” and “progressive” crowd.
>>
>> INTELLIGENTSIA SELF-DEFENCE
>>
>> The intelligentsia appears to be addicted to

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