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Re: New Heritage List queries

From:

Casa-Hatton Rebecca <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:18:22 +0100

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Thank you, Crispin



Regards



Rebecca



Rebecca Casa Hatton

Archaeologist

Planning Services

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-----Original Message-----

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crispin Flower

Sent: 08 April 2011 13:58

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries



Hi Alex and Tim and other non-HBSMR folk



The latest thesaurus on our web site can be downloaded by anyone. There is nothing proprietary about this, and it's in - "csv" format (an open text format - character separated values). You can open the files in notepad, Excel, or import into databases.



The latest thesaurus is the top item here:

http://www.esdm.co.uk/downloads/HBSMR.asp



and the Heritage List concordance file will be put there as well when we get it from EH. I'll let you know.



Enjoy!

Crispin





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-----Original Message-----

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Godden, Alex

Sent: 08 April 2011 13:16

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries



Thanks, Martin  - I'll contact Lorraine on Monday to request a copy



All the best 



Alex 



-----Original Message-----

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of NEWMAN, Martin

Sent: 08 April 2011 12:47

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries



The file will be non propriatorial, it will be a .csv file giving old

and new numbers. exeGesIS may do something with it for HBSMR users but

that is a matter for them and the HBSMR Users Group.



Martin



-----Original Message-----

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Godden, Alex

Sent: 08 April 2011 12:18

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [HERFORUM] New Heritage List queries



Hi Martin,



Will there be a .csv for non-HBSMR HERs? We use a bespoke system



Thanks



Alex



Alex Godden BA (Hons) MA

Archaeologist/ Historic Data Manager

Strategic Environmental Delivery Group

Economy, Transport and Environment Department Hampshire County Council

Tel. 01962 832338    HPSN 8 200 2338

Email: [log in to unmask]







hants.gov.uk/landscape-and-heritage









-----Original Message-----

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Poppy

Sent: 08 April 2011 12:10

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries



Hi Martin,

While we are on the subject, and apologies if I have missed something,

but is there a list of the 350 OCNs that have been re-assessed, or will

that be self-evident in the concordance file?



All the best

sarah



-----Original Message-----

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster

Sent: 08 April 2011 12:07

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries



That's fine, thanks Martin.





Chris Webster

Somerset Historic Environment Record

Somerset Heritage Centre

Brunel Way

Taunton

TA2 6SF



01823 347434



Online HER: www.somerset.gov.uk/her



-----Original Message-----

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of NEWMAN, Martin

Sent: 08 April 2011 12:06

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries



Chris,



No national numbers were assigned to the OCNs that were re-assessed

under the OCN Project. This data was added into the new Unified

Designation System which sits behind the Heritage List Access. These

sites went straight from their Old County Number to the new number in

the list without going through an intermediary national number. The data

you will get on the concordance file and the data download will give the

OCN for these records.

I hope this clarifies things for you.



Martin





-----Original Message-----

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster

Sent: 07 April 2011 18:07

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [HERFORUM] New Heritage List queries



Thanks for that Martin, could you just clarify the last bit about SM

numbers. My point was that we don't (well I don't) know the national SM

numbers that were assigned during the OCN project, so if the concordance

you are intending to provide was just SM national number -> NHLE number

we wouldn't know what the OCN ones were.



--

Chris Webster

Somerset Historic Environment Record

Somerset County Council

Somerset Heritage Centre

Brunel Way

Taunton

TA2 6SH



01823 347434



Online HER at www.somerset.gov.uk/her



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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records on behalf of

NEWMAN, Martin

Sent: Thu 07/04/2011 17:17

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: New Heritage List queries





In response to the queries raised and the feedback we have received we

are putting together the concordance list required for mapping old to

new heritage asset numbers. This should be ready by Monday 11th April

and will be made available as a .csv file on the exegesis website. You

can also request a copy from Lorraine Summerfield

([log in to unmask] or 01793 414883) - a copy

will be sent out as soon as it is available. LB Online data will remain

on the Heritage Gateway until early next week when we are hoping to

release the National Heritage List for England which will replace the LB

Online cross-search.







Additionally the spatial data download will contain a Legacy UID field

as well as a field for the new List Entry number. However, the data

download site has yet to be refreshed following the new Heritage List

for England going live. This has been delayed because some spatial

depictions failed to migrate to the new system. Consequently we are

having to put these back manually. We are treating this as a high

priority and are hoping to have the data download site refreshed next

week. We will let the Forum know when this is available.







To clarify another point raised in this thread all scheduled monuments

will have been given a completely new number in the Heritage List For

England whether they were previously and Old County Number  (OCN) or a

national number (MPP and later). This includes all those schedulings

reviewed under the desk based OCN project to revise around 350

schedulings prior to migration into the new system.'







Martin





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