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Patrick Lockley <[log in to unmask]>

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So i have waited till past five o'clock to send this email, so technically I am not at work, but I am using Oxford's email so can I bill CETIS for consultancy fees?

Responses in no preference

Newcastle favourite system

I think phrasing it as being "delicious" assumes that delicious was any good - could not be bettered by a new feature. I never got delicious as a system, or social bookmarking, but I really like Diigo as I can read certain pages later on my phone. Lots of systems can be improved by adding a new feature see, bicycle -> motorbike and cake -> chocolate cake.

Given the likely users are smaller than delicious, and, perhaps, more likely fact that other users are likely to be known to other users, or at least have related backgrounds which would allow for comparison (new links favourited by science teachers - as 1 example). Also, as a bookmarklet, it would be eminently deliverable via WSUS or something similar, so you could get entire Universities using the system in next to no time. Might be interesting to see if you could make the collections targetable by institutions only as well.

Favouriting is going to be an interesting paradata action to deal with, but I also feel one with lots of scope. 

I'd already, with previous posts, shown I thought academic link sharing had lots of mileage / kilometreage. With a nice API and two way interactions (ping backs) there is lots of potential.

Now, you could also make the tool generate common cartridge files too.

Shared vocabularies

I don't know that much about this side of things, but I feel anything that makes metadata generation easier and encourages linking between them might be a useful tool. I wonder if this service could be served centrally to repositories, so as to encourage shared usage, and scope for dynamically generating the vocabulary generated? I'd worry how much people would use the vocabularies without seeing a distinct benefit of them. Most of UKOER is tagged as to what the OU has chosen and so their keywords tend to control most tag clouds / keyword lists. I don't know if you saw Xcloud or X3d (www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert/labs) which was an attempt to get away from straight dc:subject keywords into more interesting pairs / occurrences.

Cut and Paste attribution

I was glad this mentioned Open Attribute :) We're pretty soon about to release an OpenAttribute tool for Wordpress and Drupal. So we are moving from being just about facilitating attribution and instead into encouraging the creation of properly licensed content. Interestingly, I asked if anyone thought an "attributed link" - say a get variable appended onto the URL - would be useful / worthwhile and no one replied. This was on the Wordpress list on JISCMAIL. Not sure if that is representative or not.

I did wonder if capret-enabling a website might be a hurdle, and perhaps a central capret recorder might offer the benefit of allowing searches on used content? I also wonder if this ties in with Rob Pearce's picture idea? I did wonder why you only allow for text marking - why not any HTML embeddable element?

I tried to build an Xpert web buggy thing to do this - but found making one work in all documents (pasted into word say) was pretty much impossible. Maybe a central service gets round this?

OAI-ORE
In June of last year (i think) the UKOER three (Pat M, Jenny G and myself) did decide that OAI-ORE made a lot of sense as a format for resources. I did think about putting it into the DC feed that comes out of toolkits installs. However, we never could find anyone who'd harvest the ORE.

I think ORE would make remixing and attribution a lot simpler and interesting. Breakable resources also makes / facilitates the creation of larger OER with less concern over whether this piece is reusable or not.

The always using the most up to date version worries me though - as some people might like the version as is and not want it to change.

But the more data about component items, alternative forms, mobile versions - the better.

Is Bath using Drupal as it's repo - with OeRBIT attached?

Hope this helps

Pat

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