JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for GRIDPP-STORAGE Archives


GRIDPP-STORAGE Archives

GRIDPP-STORAGE Archives


GRIDPP-STORAGE@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

GRIDPP-STORAGE Home

GRIDPP-STORAGE Home

GRIDPP-STORAGE  April 2011

GRIDPP-STORAGE April 2011

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: UK FTS channels that don't make the SONAR test

From:

[log in to unmask]

Reply-To:

[log in to unmask]

Date:

Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:12:51 +0000

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (106 lines)

Following mostly the advice of
http://fasterdata.es.net/fasterdata/host-tuning/linux/

mainly slight change is to make maximum tcp window size between 4-12M (my recommendation at the moment has been to say 8M)
default window size people have between 128k and 1M
minimum window size, majority have either 4k or 8k, some go as much as 128k or even 1M !!   (erroneously in my un-substantiated opinion)
For a local transfer the tcp settings are less important I t might be we have too many transfers concurrent to get a high rate.)
Liverpool currently have  the following number of transfers per fts channel.

Ral-Liverpool= 10 for Atlas, 5 for t2k
Liverpool-ral= 15 for Atlas, 5 for t2k
Star-Liverpool= 10 for Atlas, 5 for t2k

Personally I am not sure I would want to change this that much since you need high concurrent transfers to deal with small files. 

Brian  

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bland [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 05 April 2011 14:24
To: Davies, Brian (STFC,RAL,ESC)
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: UK FTS channels that don't make the SONAR test


Hi,

What are the generally accepted TCP Window sizes these days? We may have 
missed a tweak somewhere.

Or we might have to take it up with the uni network guys.

John

On 05/04/2011 13:40, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> So the following channels are those which would not make the 10MB/s for
> atlas transfers are in the following channels:
>
> http://bourricot.cern.ch/dq2/ftsmon/channel_view/multi/UKI-SOUTHGRID-BHAM-HEP&UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP&UKI-NORTHGRID-SHEF-HEP&RAL-LCG2&UKI-SCOTGRID-DURHAM&UKI-LT2-RHUL&UKI-LT2-UCL-HEP&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2/RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&UKI-LT2-RHUL&UKI-LT2-UCL-HEP&UKI-SCOTGRID-GLASGOW/2011-03-01/2011-04-05/19/
> <http://bourricot.cern.ch/dq2/ftsmon/channel_view/multi/UKI-SOUTHGRID-BHAM-HEP&UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP&UKI-NORTHGRID-SHEF-HEP&RAL-LCG2&UKI-SCOTGRID-DURHAM&UKI-LT2-RHUL&UKI-LT2-UCL-HEP&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2/RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&RAL-LCG2&UKI-LT2-RHUL&UKI-LT2-UCL-HEP&UKI-SCOTGRID-GLASGOW/2011-03-01/2011-04-05/19/>
>
> so these are
>
> ral-Liverpool
>
> Liverpool-ral
>
> ral-RHUL
>
> RHUL-ral
>
> ucl-ral
>
> ral-ucl
>
> Birmingham-ral
>
> Durham-ral
>
> ral-Glasgow
>
> For Liverpool, RHUL and ucl its bi-directional
>
> But for Birmingham Durham and Glasgow its single directional.
>
> Glasgow is an interesting issue.
>
> On the 25^th we increased from 5 to 20 concurrent transfers due to clear a
> backlog of files. For two weeks before the channel average was 11.0 MB/s but
> two weeks after it is 7.1 MB/s ( so now failing) this can be seen in these
> two plots:
>
> Before
>
> http://bourricot.cern.ch/dq2/ftsmon/multi_spacetoken_view/RAL-LCG2/UKI-SCOTGRID-GLASGOW/2011-03-11/2011-03-25/12/0/1/
>
> After
>
> http://bourricot.cern.ch/dq2/ftsmon/multi_spacetoken_view/RAL-LCG2/UKI-SCOTGRID-GLASGOW/2011-03-25/2011-04-08/12/0/1/
>
> I see this as possible evidence that number of concurrent files is a factor
>
> An url to compare bi-directional can be seen here:
>
> Durham is here:
>
> http://bourricot.cern.ch/dq2/ftsmon/channel_view/multi/RAL-LCG2&UKI-SCOTGRID-DURHAM/UKI-SCOTGRID-DURHAM&RAL-LCG2/2011-03-11/2011-04-25/24/
> <http://bourricot.cern.ch/dq2/ftsmon/channel_view/multi/RAL-LCG2&UKI-SCOTGRID-DURHAM/UKI-SCOTGRID-DURHAM&RAL-LCG2/2011-03-11/2011-04-25/24/>
>
> Liverpool is here:
>
> http://bourricot.cern.ch/dq2/ftsmon/channel_view/multi/RAL-LCG2&UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP/UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP&RAL-LCG2/2011-03-11/2011-04-25/24/
> <http://bourricot.cern.ch/dq2/ftsmon/channel_view/multi/RAL-LCG2&UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP/UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP&RAL-LCG2/2011-03-11/2011-04-25/24/>
>
> Brian
>


-- 
John Bland                       [log in to unmask]
System Administrator             office: 220
High Energy Physics Division     tel (int): 42911
Oliver Lodge Laboratory          tel (ext): +44 (0)151 794 2911
University of Liverpool          http://www.liv.ac.uk/physics/hep/
"I canna change the laws of physics, Captain!"

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004
September 2004
August 2004
July 2004
June 2004


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager