How many people are on the list?

-Joel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Thomas" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WDL] handover?


> Well this is all very interesting. For quite a while I have viewed WDL as 
> mostly announcements only. I can't remember the last time there was a 
> lively discussion here - and now there is!
>
> So if you want me to keep it open, I'm happy to do that. Was just cleaning 
> house. Glad to hear the list is valued.
>
> Sue
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 14 Mar 2011, at 17:27, "Simon Biggs" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Marc makes a good point. One doesn't close a community. Ghost towns were
>> once communities - and sometimes people move back in again. If you tear 
>> it
>> down then that's that.
>>
>> All the lists I run on JISC are closed and ultra-low traffic so very low
>> maintenance. I never have to worry about spam or moderation. Only invited
>> members can post. Posts from non-members are automatically rejected. I
>> co-moderate empyre, which is an open list and therefore more work. But 
>> there
>> are two other moderators who are the owners, so the work-load is spread.
>>
>> I could take over admin of WDL. If I was to do that then I'd want it to 
>> be
>> more active than it currently is. A digital literature list would, I am
>> sure, have some interest. I am aware of the other lists on the topic, 
>> like
>> digitalpoetry, eeuropoetry, eulit and netpoetics. Others have ceased, 
>> like
>> alt-x. Others are not so much lists as portals, like ELO and ELMCIP.
>>
>> Do people think there is a demand for WDL to keep going? How many members
>> are there? Are we all lurkers on all our lists, or active elsewhere? If 
>> the
>> latter then WDL could still have some life in it yet...
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> On 14/03/2011 16:32, "marc garrett" <[log in to unmask]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sue, Joel & list...
>>>
>>> Sad news that this list is closing down. Especially when it specifically
>>> explored contexts and ideas in respect of writing & its relationship to
>>> being digital, culturally and academically.
>>>
>>> I also feel that it's a shame that another email list community which
>>> has been around since 2005 is now leaving a dynamically shared,
>>> expansive, networked culture of media arts & associated practices. When
>>> considering the bigger picture, the culture of this varied and ever
>>> creative field has gone through many changes. Closing down a community
>>> (whether virtual or physical) is a significant shift, especially when
>>> considering personal the time and investment into such a venture by
>>> those who have been involved with the list and its long-time users.
>>>
>>> It is essential to have pockets or places to go to on the Internet where
>>> we can escape with others, away from commercial intrusion or
>>> over-powering McDonald like places, such as Facebook etc - which serve a
>>> purpose, but in the end are more like big shoppiing malls. It is
>>> important to have out there, smaller projects and groups connecting with
>>> each other, at deeper levels mutually discovering and critiquing subject
>>> matters; whilst knowing a text does not have to be limited to less than
>>> 40 characters or lost in a platform orientated around data collection as
>>> well culturalized mediation.
>>>
>>> As Joel has mentioned the netbehaviour (www.netbehaviour.org) list is
>>> based in the UK. We are not part of an educational institution but are
>>> extremely dedicated to art, technology, social contexts and free
>>> culture. It is dynamic and can be a bit wild sometimes and has grown
>>> organically with an open attitude around user moderation, we feel that
>>> creative individuals and groups need to be allowed the freedom to
>>> explore on their own terms, individually and with others. There are
>>> about 740 users on the list. I am aware that we already have some
>>> members from WDL on netbehaviour & they are the best people to ask if
>>> you need more information - Anyone is welcome :-)
>>>
>>> wishing all well.
>>>
>>> marc
>>>
>>> www.furtherfield.org
>>>> Sue;
>>>> Perhaps everyone should be referred to the NetBehaviour List, which
>>>> also originates in the UK:
>>>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> -Joel
>>>>
>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>    *From:* Sue Thomas <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>    *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>    <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>    *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2011 8:16 AM
>>>>    *Subject:* [WDL] handover?
>>>>
>>>>    Joel et al
>>>>
>>>>    I’m sorry, i realise that i should have offered the chance for
>>>>    someone else to run it. Due to the JISC rules, I think that person
>>>>    has to have an ac.uk email address but I’d be happy to hand it
>>>>    over if anyone would like it.
>>>>
>>>>    Best
>>>>
>>>>    sue
>>>>
>>>>    *From:*[log in to unmask]
>>>>    <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>    [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of
>>>>    *Joel Weishaus
>>>>    *Sent:* 14 March 2011 15:14
>>>>    *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>    *Subject:* Re: [WDL] This list is closing
>>>>
>>>>    Dear Sue;
>>>>
>>>>    I hate to see it close down, but I understand.
>>>>
>>>>    Warm Wishes,
>>>>
>>>>    Joel
>>>>
>>>>        ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>        *From:*Sue Thomas <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>        *To:*[log in to unmask]
>>>>        <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>        *Sent:*Monday, March 14, 2011 7:44 AM
>>>>
>>>>        *Subject:*[WDL] This list is closing
>>>>
>>>>        Dear list members
>>>>
>>>>        The Writing and Digital Life list has been running since 2005
>>>>        and is used very little these days so I propose to close it
>>>>        down this Friday 18^th March.
>>>>
>>>>        Please feel free to circulate personal updates, news and
>>>>        contact addresses in the next few days before the list is 
>>>> closed.
>>>>
>>>>        Thanks to all for your participation and interest.
>>>>
>>>>        Best wishes
>>>>
>>>>        Sue
>>>>
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>>>>
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