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Re: OER Recommender (by Folksemantic)

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Patrick Lockley <[log in to unmask]>

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Open Educational Resources <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:47:53 +0100

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The funnier point is - we take your data from jorum, to give it back to you, so you can give to folksemantic.

I believe this is a process above criticism.

I've changed the host name to be xpert for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christopher Taylor [BIS]
Sent: 30 March 2011 16:40
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OER Recommender (by Folksemantic)

*ahem*

Following the outstanding work by the tireless Pat, very little effort is now req... etc etc. ;)

To quote a great man:

"Listen, and understand. That Xpert is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until your OERs are harvested."


Anyway, yes, feed URL is very questionable...


-----Original Message-----
From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 30 March 2011 16:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OER Recommender (by Folksemantic)

Very little effort from you other than to email me :P

http://www.folksemantic.com/feeds/1047364967

Loving your Feed URL - that'll teach me to use Stub values (laughs to himself)

-----Original Message-----
From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christopher Taylor [BIS]
Sent: 30 March 2011 16:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OER Recommender (by Folksemantic)

Just a quick update on this.

Had contact with the Recommender dev team last week, they recognised there was an issue and have resolved it (though I don't actually have any info on what the issue was yet).

So now our feed has successfully been imported: http://www.folksemantic.com/feeds/1047364967

And the others from NickS, FredR and Hiten/Jorum look to be working now too:
http://www.folksemantic.com/feeds?asc=false&order=created_at

So, some potential extra exposure for people's OERs for very little effort. Would be interesting to see if they have stats on how many pages their widget is embedded in.

Now just need a method to embed the javascript app easily and safely in our wiki pages.

To the OERHackday-mobile!

Chris.



-----Original Message-----
From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christopher Taylor [BIS]
Sent: 10 March 2011 12:47
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OER Recommender (by Folksemantic)

Hi All,

For ref:
http://www.oerrecommender.org/
http://www.folksemantic.com/widgets 

Am currently writing this up for a blog post, but yes, we're (Bioscience) currently investigating their Recommender widget, as I've probably mentioned at a couple of previous meetings.

I've also been working with Pat over the last day to update the Xpert service to provide a full RSS feed of the bioukoer-tagged records we have in there (as the default Xpert RSS will only provide the latest 25 records), which we can then use as a source for the OER Recommender to index.

I provided the Recommender with a feed yesterday afternoon, and nothing has yet appeared, but I'm giving it a bit more time at the moment.

We have a couple of issues with the widget, in that you have very little control over the resources it recommends, you simply point it at a URL and it uses data on the page to provide resources it thinks are relevant, and it can be fairly hit and miss, though there's a good argument for the serendipitous* nature of the widget there <nods at Rob>, and also as it's javascript-based we cannot embed it in our Wordpress-hosted blog (due to their clampdown/potential security issues), nor currently our wiki or (at least I can't) embed it in our aspx-based webpages.

That said, I think it would be very useful for all of the OER projects to submit their resources to the Recommender for the added exposure, and thanks to Pat's sterling work yesterday, using the "RSS feed (all items) for this result" it should now be possible for most projects to give the OER Recommender a complete feed based on a keyword (sfsoer, engscoer, geesoer, csapoer etc) from Xpert.

It might be worth holding off slightly until I've had confirmation that the Recommender system has absorbed all of our content, and I'll report back here asap.

Cheers,
Chris.


* http://icesculpture.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/serendipity-engine/ 






-----Original Message-----
From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 10 March 2011 12:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: OER Recommender

Hi all,

Wondering if any one is using their widget, or sending an RSS feed to them?

Pat
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