On 28 Jan 2011, at 11:36, White, David wrote:

> Given the 'O' in OER is seems churlish to make the UK distinction.

The ukoer tag was originally intended simply to identify stuff relating to the JISC / HEA OER Programmes.  If other folks want to use it that's grand.  No reason why "oer" or indeed any other tags can't be used too.  I wouldn't read too much into the "uk" bit. 

> It
> bemuses me that putative funding for OER is still underpinned by a
> 'broadcast' mentality. i.e. We make stuff and the rest of the world uses
> it. It's this broadcast approach which clashes with the concept of open
> for me. For the most part open seems to be reduced to 'free at the point
> of use' and 'accessible'. 

It's true that the OER Pilot Programme did focus on getting stuff out there.  Although it also aimed to raise awareness of oer and embed sustainable practice.  It's a starting point at least and hopefully one that will in some small way help the  "concept of open"  to flourish.

Cheers
Lorna


> Friday thoughts...
> 
> Dave
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: Re: Who owns UKOER
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>> On 27 Jan 2011, at 11:24, David Kernohan wrote:
>> 
>>> What conversation? ;-)
>> 
>> The conversation that didn't happen yesterday that I've only just got
>> round to reading.
>> 
>> I have to agree with David.  I don't think JISC can, or would want to,
>> restrict use of a tag as general as ukoer.  As David pointed out, if
> other
>> initiatives also make use of  this tag it could be seen as measure of
> the
>> programmes' success.
>> 
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>> 
>> Lorna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:23:29 -0000, Patrick Lockley
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well I've told the contact he can use UKOER if he wants too, and
> now
>>>> I'll just deny all knowledge of this conversation
>>>> 
>>>> *taps nose*
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Open Educational Resources
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>>> Behalf Of David Kernohan
>>>> Sent: 27 January 2011 11:10
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: Who owns UKOER
>>>> 
>>>> JISC/Academy have never been that interested in "the big count"
> being a
>>>> measure of success or otherwise of the programme. Indeed, other
> people
>>>> using the tag (and they already are) could be seen as evidence of
> the
>>>> success of the programme as a socio-cultural venture.
>>>> 
>>>> However my colleagues and collaborators may feel differently, so
> please
>>>> don't take this as the final JISC answer.
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:06:34 -0000, Patrick Lockley
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I was just thinking it would help their content to be associated
> via
>> the
>>>>> tag, but wasn't sure how much #jiscstats use the tag and this
> might
>>>>> confuse them?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: David Kernohan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> Sent: 27 January 2011 11:05
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]; Patrick Lockley
>>>>> Subject: Re: Who owns UKOER
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Pat
>>>>> 
>>>>> No-one owns UKOER, it's a tag used by people creating and
> discussing
>> OER
>>>>> in the UK!
>>>>> 
>>>>> All Academy/JISC funded projects have to use the tag for any and
> all
>>>>> materials they create, but it is not exclusive and could never be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:02:24 -0000, Patrick Lockley
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am helping some one make an RSS feed of some OERs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is the UKOER subject tag solely for JISC funded projects?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pat
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