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Re: Does Europeana make you think culture?

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Linda Ellis <[log in to unmask]>

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Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:43:54 -0000

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Our Black Country museums went down the online collections catalogue
route partly because we didn't have curators / education staff available
/ keen to write online content and partly because you have got to start
somewhere and providing web users with basic information that they can
re-use and build on opens up our collections to everyone, allowing
experts and non-experts alike to use our collections data to create new,
more interesting and engaging offerings.  

The approach we have taken whereby we can create additional website
using WordPress that can talk to our collections database backend also
gives us the starting blocks to build our own more exciting websites
once I have found a way to get our curators and education staff
on-board.

Linda

Linda Ellis
Project Manager Black Country Collections Online
www.blackcountryhistory.org.uk
www.geologymatters.org.uk
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-----Original Message-----
From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Jon Pratty
Sent: 24 January 2011 12:30
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Subject: Re: Does Europeana make you think culture?

It's great that this thread is opening up the Europeana discussion in a
positive way now. As Robert Bud and Jason Webber hint, making great
content online is about more than just putting collection objects
online. It's partly, at least, about blending strands of content types
together and keeping them alive and topical on an everyday basis,
something online journalists excel at. It's also about welcoming
participation and contributions from both public and expert users. It's
about importing and exporting basic data for others to build on, seeing
your institution within a web of digital creation, consumption and
collaboration.   

I think Culture Grid and Europeana fit into this cultural web as
possible sources for part of the data mix; but there's still much more
needed to make a whole publishing proposition. We could perhaps be
looking outwards to see how other digital producers [like high street
retailers] keep rich online catalogues looking vibrant and current. They
do it with offers, features, rich media, social media and all sorts of
initiatives. At the bottom of the online supply chain, though, there's
always a repository of base-level object info, and that's why Europeana
and Culture Grid - to me- are so important. 

My current fave site that blends differing content types and data
sources is Wessex Archaeology - lovely functional, informational,
topical, fun stuff! http://www.wessexarch.co.uk/ 

Jon     

Jon Pratty
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Arts Council England
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-----Original Message-----
From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Webber, Jason
Sent: 24 January 2011 12:09
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Subject: Re: Does Europeana make you think culture?

Hi

I manage the www.20thcenturylondon.org.uk website that uses the culture
grid but has been specifically designed to contextualise the collections
it displays. We therefore have hundreds of pages of information about
all sorts of aspects of London life and people in the 20th century and
most objects have a caption that tells you something interesting.

I definitely agree that for a lot of people a database of objects online
is not going to engage them. To try and overcome this we've been working
hard utilizing social media and have a program of audio slideshows that
tell small but interesting stories. So far these have been successful in
helping us have something to market and give people who just want some
entertainment something to look at.

Without this kind of ongoing content creation though, I do fear that at
best people will look at online collections once and then not think to
return. Creating content, of course, requires either money for staff or
volunteers who are generous with their time. For this project at least
it's something I'd like to develop.

As Nick says Culture Grid and Europeana are not destination sites and
it's up to us to make them.

Cheers.

Jason



Jason Webber
Web Manager, Exploring 20th Centuy London, Information Resources Section
Museum of London
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London. EC2Y 5HN
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-----Original Message-----
From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Jim Richardson
Sent: 24 January 2011 11:52
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Does Europeana make you think culture?

Hi All

Personally I struggle to think of a good online collection. I certainly
don't rate Europeana which is incredibly dry, and doesn't keep my
interest more then a few seconds before I click away.

Perhaps before we digitise every collection in Europe we should speak to
our audiences about what they would want from such a website, and
develop a better standard of collection interface.

As I say, though I think Europeana is terribly designed (and has a truly
awful name) I struggle to come up with a museum who has done it
brilliantly. Personally I like the collection pages on the Brooklyn
Museum website which I find to be friendly, easy to use and interesting,
but I don't think it's a perfect solution...

Anyone think they have nailed the right design for an online collection?

Jim
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