Thank you all for the comments, and for the others who've mailed me off-list having spotted glitches, it's great to have some live user testing going on!
> Richard:
We've had a few instances of the Firefox issue and we've now identified that this happens on the 'View' setting of 'Zoom Text Only' at -1 (hit Ctrl+0 to resolve this). This is a relatively unusual setting as the more common use case is for larger text, however it does raise the question of whether people are favouring fixed or proportional widths. We purposefully chose to measure in ems as it renders bigger fonts more cleanly, so has accessibility benefits - any thoughts/preferences?
> Tom:
The biggest problem was - and will continue to be - that our CMS doesn't support the new elements by default. Content copied and pasted from a Word document (as other departments around our organisation do) will get transformed into paragraphs and lists correctly but, for example, addresses and times still need to be manually reformatted in the source. For the most part, the new structural elements are handled in templates outside the editable content areas which makes the semantic formatting a much easier job. The Flash video vs <video> argument really is just a single part of the whole discussion but it's probably one of the least complicated aspects to implement.
> Michael:
We gracefully degrade. Users of such delectable browsers as IE5 and Netscape Navigator should be presented with a clean, understandable and fully accessible site.
Best,
Hugh
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Subject: Re: New National Museums Scotland website + HTML5 question
Nice clean look to the site, though there are a couple of nits on the
home page when using Firefox 3.6.12:
- the Events vanish if you wave over the Museums or Exhibits;
- the image of the month is plonked over the Explore panel
Having read the Belam blog, I would be cautious about the extent to
which just adopting HTML 5 markup will allow you to "have your content
linked to and used in contexts beyond your own website".
The additional built-in tags describing aspects of a page (<section>,
<aside>, etc.) may make it easier for standard agents to publish the
same page to multiple platforms, but you can achieve the same thing
today with good old <div> and <span>, a bit of content negotiation and a
sprinkling of CSS. I don't see how this helps _other_ publishers to
re-use _your_ content: perhaps someone could enlighten me? (I found the
<embed> tag in a linked article, but that seems to be for fixed-size
plug-ins rather than transcluded textual content a la XLink.)
Also, I don't see anything in HTML 5 which provides direct support for
Linked Data.
Richard
In message <[log in to unmask]>, Tom Grinsted
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>Re: HTML5, that seems like an eminently sensible way to approach a new
>website. In the future, making your content intelligible to machines
>through the semantic elements of HTML5 is going to br critical if you
>want to be found by search and have your content linked to and used in
>contexts beyond your own website. Did you guys come across any problems
>when developing using the new markup?
>
>It's worth remembering that the huge amounts of press about
>HTML5/video/flash has largely obscured the more critical aspects of
>HTML5, namely giving content machine-readable context and so tying in
>with the emerging semantic web and linked data.
>
>If anyone's interested, this is a really useful blog post from Martin
>Belam about the content elements of HTML5 and how they work in pages
>and articles. Great list of links for more information at the bottom of
>the page too.
>http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2010/08/html5-for-journalists.php
>
>Tom Grinsted
>Multimedia Manager
>Imperial War Museum
>
>
>Multimedia Manager
>Imperial War Museum
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>Hi all,
>
>
>
>We relaunched the National Museums Scotland website last Monday so have
>spent a week or so ironing out minor glitches, etc - as one does!
>
>
>
>We've implemented it in HTML5 and we were wondering if anyone else has
>done, or is in the process of doing, this? We've had some tech press
>interest so I was intrigued to know. Our Technical Manager Simon Madine
>has also written a blog post to explain our reasoning:
>http://bit.ly/dqub8j
>
>
>
>I'd love to get your feedback - http://www.nms.ac.uk
><http://www.nms.ac.uk/> - as with all sites this is a work in progress
>so there are various related projects in the pipeline
>
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>
>
>Hugh
>
>
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