I suggest that rhetorically and politically the more lines of protest the better

We now have a CommPsy Section separate from the list. I suggest that Section issues statements etc as suggested

I also suggest this List (pending the establishment of the Collective issues its own statements etc and perhaps organises its own petition

Thirdly I suggest all who feel they can sign the petition previously circulated

If we belong to other groups, we should mobilise them.

Individuals can also register their concern protest separately (here I am speaking up for individual action!)

david

David Fryer
Professor of Community Critical Psychology, Charles Sturt University, Australia
Professor Extraordinarius, University of South Africa
Honorary Senior Research Fellow, University of Stirling, Scotland
President: European Community Psychology Association

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From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Erica Brostoff [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 25 November 2010 05:29
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Subject: Re: Section and Zucker - Update

No, the same.  Its mainly the thought that people could actually sign it rather than coming from the committee.  Sorry for crossed lines. E


On 24 Nov 2010, at 18:21, Jacqueline Akhurst (J.Akhurst) wrote:

Hi Erica,

Do you suggest a different petition to the one Valeska refers to in her last paragraph below?

Jacqui

From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Erica Brostoff
Sent: 24 November 2010 18:17
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Section and Zucker - Update

Could you post a petition or whatever equivalent is suitable and get members of the Community Section to sign, Erica (I would do so)


On 24 Nov 2010, at 18:10, Jacqueline Akhurst (J.Akhurst) wrote:


Dear all,

A brief response: The interim committee of the BPS Community Psychology Section meets for the first time tomorrow, and I will table the proposal for response. As I’m sure you will appreciate, I wish to work as democratically as possible as the chair, hence my silence up to this point. (Personally, I heartily support a protest of some sort). I guess this is an immediate challenge to the new Section (we’re not a Division) – a ‘test case’ …

Best wishes,
Jacqui

From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Valeska Matziol
Sent: 24 November 2010 17:38
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Section and Zucker - Update

Hi again!

Me too, I would strongly urge the Division of Community Psychology to become active and join the protest. After all I thought one of our reasons for establishing the division was to try and promote change within the profession from the inside or am I mistaken? Also, I'm not sure what point there was to join the ranks of the BPS (as a division) and put up with the restrictions this necessarily entails if we're not going to use the benefits this new position gives us when appropriate.

The Psychology of Women and the Psychology of Sexualities sections have both already contacted the DCP with a statement about their concerns and some members of the Faculty of Sexual Health and HIV of the DCP have also expressed concerns to us though I’m not sure whether they have also contacted the DCP, too.

One of the protest organizers here in Manchester has recently met with Jen Unwin (DCP Conference Committee Chair) to discuss the issues face to face but unfortunately very little was achieved at this meeting. The DCP have offered a 50 minute slot after Zucker's presentation for an alternative perspective but it has been difficult to locate an appropriate speaker as the people who were contacted are either busy on the 3rd of December or haven’t responded yet. The DCP have already organised Polly Carmichael to discuss GID with Zucker, but we have concerns about how much of a debate this would be as Jen Unwin has stated that Polly sees his views as ‘controversial' but nonetheless 'valid'. She also cites Zucker regularly in her own research, so we’re not sure how much of a debate this would be.

The same person is writing a paper/commentary for the Psychology of Women Section Review (PoWSR) about the keynote and our protest and she’s discussing other possible events with the Chair of the Psychology of Sexualities. In addition, a trainee clinical psychologist wants to write something for the Clinical Psychology Forum, and a PhD student has promised to provide a critique of Zucker’s flawed use of statistics to back up his claims.

Regarding the actual protest, we had another meeting last night and decided to try and
–         get our counter statement to Zucker’s proposals included in the conference pack
–         see if we could read out our statement at the end of Zucker’s keynote in the absence of having someone to challenge him in a podium discussion (as we are mostly students or professionals from other disciplines we don’t feel we could effectively challenge him ourselves in a debate)
–         hand the statement out to delegates on their way into the conference venue on 1st and 2nd December
–         stage a protest outside the conference venue on 3rd December (starting at 8.30am in time with registration and lasting at least till after the keynote scheduled for 11am)

There will be another meeting held at the Manchester University Student’s Union next Tuesday, 30th November at 6pm for banner making and chant rehearsals and everybody’s more than welcome to join.

I will forward the protest flyer and any other relevant handouts or documents in the next couple fo days. but if you’d like to find out more in the meantime or get involved, please get in touch by email to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>. Alternatively, the event is also on Facebook so find us there. And please promote the protest and the online petition (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/zucker2010/signatures) to as many people as possible, especially to those who might be (or are) attending the conference. If you know anyone who will be attending the conference, please encourage them to boycott Zucker’s keynote (they can always join us outside for the duration) or challenge him from the floor and to complain to the conference organizers about his invitation.

Many thanks!

V.


--- Annie Mitchell <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> schrieb am Mi, 24.11.2010:

Von: Annie Mitchell <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Betreff: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Section and Zucker
An: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Datum: Mittwoch, 24. November, 2010 13:55 Uhr

Yes I support the proposals David makes here.



Annie Mitchell



From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Fryer
Sent: 24 November 2010 11:40
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Section and Zucker



Dear All,



The new interim committee of the BPS Section of Community Psychology meets on Thursday. I believe the committee (of which I am a member but can not attend) should take a stand upon the Society giving Prof Zucker a platform for his views. My own previously expressed views are (to repeat):



I believe that providing a BPS platform, amplification and implied legitimacy of a keynote presentation at a BPS Division Conference for the relaying of such repugnant and dangerous  views, and the associated oppressive practices they support, is appalling. I would support of a strong statement being issued by the members of the Community Psychology Section interim committee dissociating the CP Section from this endorsement by the Society  of this oppressive position. I would support that that statement being broadcast both inside and outside the Society. I would also support the Community Psychology Section approaching the conference organisers requesting the opportunity for someone on this list to express a counter-position as a discussant. Whether or not that request was  granted, I would be happy to support (if there are sufficient funds) the CP interim committee funding the attendance at the conference of someone to make a progressive counter-statement on the podium or from the floor.  I know someone on this list who would be ideal to play that role. A letter to The Psychologist by the members of the Community Psychology Section interim committee dissociating the CP Section from this endorsement by the Society  of this oppressive position, is the least I would expect.



I think it would be useful if as many other members of this list as possible made their views clear to the committee so that they can be taken into account.



David



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