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Re: The new Government's Spending Challenge Website

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"Head, Julia" <[log in to unmask]>

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A network for chaplains, educationalists and researchers

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Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:16:42 +0100

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We have had such a request and have had to respond.  I've had two
FOI requests in the last week.  I suspect too that it is about NSS,
but of course we could come across as being a little paranoid to those
we work with if we suggest this.  

I wonder about intellectual copyright with FOI requests too.  Has
anyone addressed this issue at all within the chaplaincy community?

Best wishes

Julia



Julia Head 
Specialist Chaplain/Joint Team Leader 
South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust 
Spiritual and Pastoral Care Service/Strategy & Business Development
Directorate 
Main EntranceIMaudsley HospitallDenmark Hill|London|SE5 8AZ 
Telephone: 020 3228 2891/2815/1680 Fax: 020 3228 1659 
_____________________________________________________________ 
020 3228 6000 The switchboard number for SLaM 
Mental health matters - Click if you care 
South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust (SLaM) provides mental
health and substance misuse services for people living in the London
Boroughs of Croydon, Lambeth, Southwark and Lewisham.  In addition, the
Trust provides substance misuse services for people in the London
Boroughs of Bexley, Greenwich and Bromley, as well as specialist
services to people from across the UK.



-----Original Message-----
From: A network for chaplains, educationalists and researchers
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Clive Smith
Sent: 19 August 2010 13:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: The new Government's Spending Challenge Website


Dear Tim,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Like you I am not surprised
and suspect the hand of NSS behind all this. I happen to have been
informed today of a Freedom of Information request for the costs of the
Chaplaincy in our Trust for the last financial year.  I hope I'm not
getting paranoid but I suspect it is not in fact a complete coincidence.
I gather I can not ask who exactly asked for the FOI request but I was
told that it came from a media enquiry. I suspect that Mark Stobart
(CHCC President) will see this email I will try and contact him before I
go on leave. I would also say that it would be good for the professional
AND the faith based Chaplaincy organisations to work in harmony on this.
It is not a matter just for one 'side'. Best wishes, Clive Smith Trust
Chaplaincy Manager, Doncaster & Bassetlaw Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Regional Rep for Yorkshire & The Humber, National Professional Committee
CHCC.
--- On Thu, 19/8/10, Revd. Tim Couchman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Revd. Tim Couchman <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: The new Government's Spending Challenge Website
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 9:58
> Dear Colleagues
> 
> as I'm sure you are all aware, the new Government has requested the 
> public share their ideas for cost efficiencies on their website:
> 
> http://spendingchallenge.hm-treasury.gov.uk/
> 
> I was disappointed, but not suprised to see there are a number of 
> postings recommending that the NHS no longer fund healthcare 
> Chaplains. Looking at the language and content of these postings, it 
> would appear that most of them come from members of the National 
> Secular Society......
> 
> The public are invited to register (simple email address
> and password registration) and then rate the ideas on a 1 -
> 5 star system.
> 
> It would also appear that a motion was recently brought before the 
> Welsh Assembly by a member of the National Secular Society that the 
> Churches be required to set up trust funds to pay for Chaplains, 
> rather than Chaplains be funded by the NHS.
> 
> Although it is clear that the National Secular Society
> shouts much louder than it's actual membership and size
> truly warrant, we must be prepared for these voices to increase in 
> volume at this time. Does anyone know whether either the College of 
> Healthcare Chaplains or the UK Board for Healthcare Chaplaincy are 
> preparing any kind of co-ordinated response to such possible 
> challenges?
> 
> Kind regards
> Revd. Tim Couchman, Senior Chaplain to the
> United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust
> 


      

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