While I have as keen an interest in Russian history as the next
person, I personally feel that this thread has travelled far enough
from CCP4 and crystallography to warrant moving any further discussion
in this vein to another forum.
On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Ed Pozharski wrote:
> I don't see what George's attempt to point out that pure-phenix
> questions should be asked in phenix bb (and the point itself may be
> subject to different opinions) has to do with renaming Moscow streets
> and subway stations (unless you thought that the proposition to rename
> ccp4bb is serious).
>
> You do realize that most of the renamed streets existed prior to 1917
> and were renamed by Bolsheviks at some point to honor the ideology and
> group of people who committed the most massive atrocity in the history
> of humankind? The comprehensive list of renamed streets can be found
> here
>
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9434.2005.00371.x/abstract
>
> and except for occasional writer with anti-monarchy leanings or
> anarchist we are talking about representatives of the first class mass
> murder machine. I sincerely hope you are not allergic to changing
> Dzerzhinsky square back to Lubyanka (which name people used anyway).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed.
>
> On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 14:38 -0700, Pavel Afonine wrote:
>> Hey Garib,
>>
>> LOL... no of course, I was just saying that I'm a bit allergic to
>> re-naming well established things, and some other people may be too
>> -:)
>> Why don't we rename you Mr. Refmac -:) ?
>>
>> Pavel.
>>
>>
>> On 8/25/10 2:25 PM, Garib Murshudov wrote:
>>> Are you suggesting ccp4 is collapsing and people are coming back to
>>> the original source?
>>>
>>>
>>> Garib
>>>
>>> On 25 Aug 2010, at 22:17, Pavel Afonine wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/25/10 2:11 PM, George M. Sheldrick wrote:
>>>>> I would like to propose that we rename this list to the "Phenix
>>>>> (and
>>>>> CCP4) Bulletin Board".
>>>>
>>>> Sounds too Russian: after collapse of USSR many street names in
>>>> Moscow, as well as metro station names, were renamed back to their
>>>> "original" names they had almost one generation ago (70+ years)
>>>> -:)
>>>>
>>>> All the best!
>>>> Pavel.
>
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> University of Maryland, Baltimore
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