Roger
Did you mean Stannary?
Phil
Roger Hutchins wrote:
> On the subject of "Calaminery". Was the word meant to be "Cala-minery" or "Calamine-ery"
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> I suggest that the suffix "ery" was attached to calamine as in "Stannery" "Fishery" "Bakery" "Colliery" etc.
> The Suffix "ery" can denote occupation, place or establishment or things collectively.
>
>> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:23:14 +0100
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>> Subject: Mendip Calamineries
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>> Peter's response to my examples of the use of 'minery':-
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>>> To my mind there are two forms there - 'minery' in the geographical sense,
>>> referring to a mining field or liberty and encompassing all the processes
>>> carried out there (as on Mendip), and the other as a skill, as in having a
>>> knowledge of 'minery'. I suspect it was very much a term of its time - the
>>> 17th/18th centuries.
>>>
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>> prompted me to revisit Gough and, on the basis of a rapid skim through, I
>> found the following on the subject of mineries:-
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>> p.72 Example of laws from Queen Mary's reign - 'The oulde Auncyent
>> Custum of the occupasyon of the mynerys in and upon the Quyns majestys
>> forest of Mendyp wythyn her gracys countye of Somerset being one of the iiij
>> stapulls of Ynglon which hath bene exersysd and contynuyd thrugh the seyd
>> forest from the tyme whereof man hath noo memory as here after doth
>> pertyculerly doth Apere'.
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>> p.74 Now the first recorded meeting of the Minery Court of Chewton took
>> place on 10 July 1554, and it was then stated that before that time the
>> workmen in the mines had 'claimed Customes to and for their Occupation .
>> amongst themselves to be observed and kept'.
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>> p.89 To each of the four lordships there belonged a 'minery', where the
>> 'buddles', or washing places, and smelting-furnaces and storehouses were,
>> and where the lead-reeves performed many of their functions; the minery was
>> in fact, the head-quarters in each district, and thither the miners, having
>> obtained their ore from the pits all over the hills, brought it for making
>> into lead, weighing, payment of 'lot-lead', and so on.
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>> The first two quotes cover the codification of long established, but
>> unwritten, mining laws, under Queen Mary (1553-1558). Like similar laws
>> elsewhere, they set out the process for getting permission to mine and cover
>> relationships between miners, and miners and the mineral lord(s). The
>> Mendip laws also allow "that any workman hath landyd Any wore [ore] he maye
>> carre hyt to weshing and blowing [smelting] to what myndry [minery] he
>> semyth best for hys proffyt and commodyte so that he doo paye the tenth of
>> that in lede or wore to the lord of the soyll where hyt was dygyd etc".
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>> The last quote (p.89), Gough's attempt to sum the situation up, seems to
>> rely on this freedom to move ore between mineries for dressing and smelting.
>> Peter now seems to accept that, as I proposed in my first response, "Perhaps
>> Gough drew his definition too tightly" and the consequent error of his own
>> statement "As you will know - the 'minery' on Mendip was a lead ore
>> processing area.", accepting instead that it refers to the area being mined
>> (including provision for dressing and smelting). He goes on to suggest that
>> minery's other meaning is "of its time", which is harder to prove one way or
>> the other. Nevertheless, there are other examples of a word having similar
>> dual uses, e.g. surgery (a place) - where surgery (the skill) is practised.
>>
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>> I would suggest that to equate minery with liberty is also wrong and that it
>> was more tightly related to the area actually being mined, as opposed to a
>> wider area over which the rights to the minerals (if any) are owned. The
>> old map used by Gough has symbolic representation of the four mineries, and
>> whilst not strictly accurate, it is adequate enough to suggest that they
>> differ from the liberties.
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>>
>> Mike
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