Karen,
I'm confused as to where you're trying to get to...
Are you asking for help understanding and getting to a great Linked Data model for OL, or are you asking for help getting to a basic solution to represent OL data within the (apparently quite limiting) constraints of where OL's tech is today?
Knowing that would help understand when to pitch in and when not to.
rob
On 15 Jun 2010, at 15:29, Karen Coyle wrote:
> Quoting Rob Styles <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>>
>
>>
>> you missed /about on the end of the URI. Ed and others suggested
>>
>> http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2632437A for the actual thing
>> http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2632437A/about for documents about the thing
>>
>> The extensions disappear as you can do content negotiation to decide
>> which representation to serve from the /about uris.
>
> Open Library is already extending the URI to include an eye-readable
> form of the author's name:
>
> http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL25245A/Tim_Berners-Lee
>
> That eye-readable form can be dropped without affecting the retrieval
> of the data at the URI http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL25245A/.
> Ideally, the eye-readable form could be used to represent the page,
> with the URI representing the person (or vice versa). Unfortunately,
> I don't believe I can work that into the real code due to the way that
> OL templates access the data.
>
> Fortunately, OL returns the same page for
> http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2632437A/about
> as it would the one with the eye-readable form.
>
> So, the '/about' form could take the administrative data today. It
> would be great to have the eye-readable suffix in the URI, but that's
> not going to happen now. Question is: if it were added on later, would
> that cause confusion because the URIs have changed?
>
> kc
>
>>
>> hope that helps clarify.
>>
>> rob
>>
>>>
>>> My conclusion: There is no obvious answer here, probably no matter what
>>> OL/Karen chooses to do, it's going to confuse some people.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Felix Ostrowski
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2632437A/about could be used as
>>>>> the generic metadata URI serving the representation that is requested
>>>>> via content negotiation. Assertions about the metadata can then be made
>>>>> using that URI:
>>>>>
>>>>> @prefix dc: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> .
>>>>> @prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> .
>>>>> <http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2632437A/about>
>>>>> dc:modified "2010-06-15" ;
>>>>> foaf:primaryTopic <http://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2632437A> .
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is an excellent suggestion. And I don't think it necessary
>>>> precludes also making a json document available at a non-content
>>>> negotiated URL. Having URLs for the specific format is often handy so
>>>> that people can look at them in their browser without having to
>>>> twiddle with Accept headers.
>>>>
>>>> //Ed
>>>>
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