As though a word or phrase can have only one meaning.
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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Jeffrey Side <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I have to agree with Alison.
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> A jump cut is not merely a metaphorical device or aspect of elision, it is
> a physical removing of a frame of film in an otherwise naturalistic and
> logically flowing sequence—-hence its effect when viewed. It is impossible
> to do this with poetry, as there is no equivalent to a frame of film in
> language/writing. Elision, parataxis etc. are not the same. To have a jump
> cut in poetry, one would have to physically cut the paper the poem is
> written on. But that would be nearer to “cut-ups”, which, again, is nearer
> to film montage than to jump cuts.
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> Original message:
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> Well, I just don't think it's a very useful term in poetry. You can make it
> mean something else, pace Humpty Dumpty, but then, so what? I can see
> cutting, ie, your standard film edit, which is what Robin's talking about in
> The Waste Land. I can see collage. A jump cut is a quite precise film
> editing term that relies for its effect on qualities of film that poetry
> (especially Ashbery, Berrigan etc)doesn't have - ie, naturalistic continuity
> - and none of these examples do anything that justify importing the term.
>
> Not that I'm stopping y'all. Feel free.
>
> xA
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