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Subject:

Re: Deposits from overseas students

From:

Mona Patel <[log in to unmask]>

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HE Administrators equal opportunities list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 25 May 2010 14:43:29 +0100

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So would we at MMU.

Thank you

Mona Patel
Equality & Diversity Officer
Manchester Metropolitan University
Organisation Development, Training & Diversity
6th Floor - All Saints Building
Oxford Road
Manchester M15 6BH
UK
Tel:   0161 247 3301
Fax:  0161 247 6789
E&D Assistant: 0161 247 6417
Website:www.mmu.ac.uk/humanresources/equalities/
 
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>>> Crofts Paul <[log in to unmask]> 25/05/2010 14:28 >>>

I have received this reply from our Finance Office:

 

All international students, regardless of origin are asked to pay a
tuition fee deposit and also the first term's accommodation fees (plus
key & damage deposit, which all students have to pay) in advance.

 

The tuition fee deposit is a commitment to study here and is required
before a VISA letter can be issued

 

The accommodation fee is to make the arrival of the student smoother and
less cumbersome.

 

Part of the reason for the deposits is also due to issues students have
with the various financial bodies around the world. It is often easier
for the transfer of funds to be arranged in advance while the students
are still in their home country (these processes are very time consuming
and it takes a considerable amount of time before the banks release the
monies, with students often having to travel to the branch to make the
arrangements, in some cases this is hundreds of miles). In fact a number
of students pay their fees in full up front because of this.

 

 

As far as I am aware no EIA has been done on this policy to date. I
would be interested if others have done one.

 

Paul

 

Paul Crofts

Equality & Diversity Advisor

 

Department for Enhanced Learning, Teaching, Achievement  and
Employability (DELTAE)

The University of Northampton

 

Tel: 01604-893887

Mobile: 078 72 83 64 63

E-mail: [log in to unmask] 

Web: www.northampton.ac.uk/equality 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: HE Administrators equal opportunities list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sanchia Alasia
Sent: 25 May 2010 13:14
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: Deposits from overseas students

 

We had someone from finance come to me when I was working at Queen Mary

to say that they had implemented a policy about taking deposits from

students from certain countries and not from others. They didn't know

anything about EIA at the time so were coming to me for some advice on

it.  They had monitored for the period around a year those students

absconding from paying the balance of their fees and had found that on

the basis of the data collected, students from certain countries were

more likely to abscond hence them introducing this policy.  There was a

disproportionate effect, but justifiable but I told them it monitor on a

regular basis as that policy should be reviewed to see if it was still

justifiable.

 

Kind Regards

 

Sanchia Alasia

Equality and Diversity Lead - Workforce

 

"Equality protects us all, diversity reflects us all"

 

Human Resources Department

House 18, Residences

Newham University Hospital

Glen Road

Plaistow

London

E13 8SL

 

Tel:  020 7363 9110

Internal  X 3110

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: HE Administrators equal opportunities list

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Moira Mitchell

Sent: 25 May 2010 12:29

To: [log in to unmask] 

Subject: Deposits from overseas students

 

Dear All,

 

I suspect to varying degrees you're all involved in implementing the

Points Based Visa System and retaining Highly Trusted Sponsor status for

your institution.

 

One of the issues that has come up for us is that the UKBA has

recommended as good practice taking substantial deposits from overseas

students. This is widely done and some universities take larger deposits

from students from certain countries (for example Nigeria). Taking a

deposit from overseas students and not from home students must have a

differential impact based on the students' country of origin and could

affect students from lower socio-economic backgrounds in particular.

 

Whilst the differential impact is presumably justified on the grounds of

immigration requirements, it would be interesting to see the results of

an EIA in this area if anyone has conducted one - or to hear any

thoughts on the matter ...

 

Best wishes,

 

Moira

 

Moira Mitchell

Equality and Diversity Manager, Canterbury Christ Church University

tel: 01227 782795 

 

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