Duh bah beh!
I fink i got it wrong again dad.
Soz Jeff, I started I changed to U and forget half way through.
Fine and noble sentiments Jeff.
But agreeing with you in one short line, that since Eliot and Joyce there's been only recasting, will not lead towards rectifying the situation, or any attempt at creating textual objects born from an adventurous impulse.
So, for the purpose of debate, lets say instead of agreeing with you, a voice seeking to challenge your assertion were to appear.
Lets call this voice 'U'.
'U' could posit 'this is ridiculous Side, you are talking silly': Writing solely for the Reader we create and that exists in our own mind first, doing it for him and/or herself first and for the sole reason of gaining a personal inward pleasure from sporting in Letters (and maybe just a little bit of sheer cheeky wind-up) - rather than for any reasons related to objectively disproving your position because 'I' holds passionate views to the contrary.
Indeed, 'U' could agree with you privately and be merely challenging themselve, conducting a public exercise, like an advocate or sophist, who pits their own wit against itself because they know this is the way to behave if one desires to exercise the intellect; rather than only voicing agreement or disagreement in a few short lines.
'U' could point out that your assertion lacks any credibilty, because you evince nothing by way of supporting evidence for this, what 'I' would say, is a somewhat easy and untaxing claim anyone could make. That it is essentially a useless opinion because:
1 - it is a negative assertion
2 - it is a very contentious claim
3 - for a claim of this magnitude we need reasons.
'U' could develop this line of thinking and say that the evidential weight in your statement and, for example, the claim 'that all the people conversing at poets on ice and the IrePo list, are boring and should be shot' - contain no substantive differences, because they're just effortless statements made without any attempt at presenting a logical reasoned argument of support.
So, in this spirit I would like to ask: Why?
Thanks very much Jeff, you're a great sport.
And sorry again Doug, and Laurie Smith.
I know you both love poetry as much as I do, Please forgive me. I won't lie, it was a sober outburst and my only defence is the human one of being just like you, but for good or ill, am unable to stop being a blurter.