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Re: blog writing

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Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:34:33 -0000

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I've read forward Chris and come back to your initial post for reference

There's the physical medium and there's what is done with it

They're not the same thing

I have been making a start on renewing the writers forum website and came
to the conclusion that a blog'd be a lot easier than writing the whole
thing in html, and a lot less - for me - soul-destroying than using
Dreamweaver et al + the way increasingly MacOS tries to save me from
myself when I tinker with web pages

"You seem to be trying to do something intelligent; would you like to talk
to a paperclip for half an hour?"

my co wf apparatchik doesnt mind so now we have the makings of a website a
large chunk of which will be a blog

It "gives permission" to be chatty when necessary - and I just lifted our
latest author-to-be encouraging sales in Spanish; I found that quite
invigorating etc; but one can also stack up a lot of data, archived; and I
shall; and I am wondering just how much stuff, when I get into it, I shall
really need trad html pages for

[if anyone wants to look there's a basic page at wfuk.org.uk and the blog at
wfuk.org.uk/ blog

I am going to do a prettier root page when I have the time; but I may not
need it that much; and may even move the blog to the root eventually

I am thinking of how I spent ages trying to learn graphics programming
years back only to find that, while I'd had my head in books, the
applications programmers had passed me by and I could do a lot more with a
mouse and graphics package  than ever I could, this side of eternity, with
extensive lines of code

Some people get off on that. Not me. + I had a rather intense psychology
tutor 30 years ago, ed psych, who said use the computer and then go away
from it; and I am still there, in *that space, trying to get away from
damn computers though I am surrounded by them

coming back to your point, there's what journalism does with media and
what other users of media do to journalism

the new electronic media allow us to trespass on the narrow-minded
preserves; and if our masters really want innovation they may get what
they don't like - even if they don't want it

alison's blog is a wonderful example of what can be done... because i go
to it intermittently, I am usually blown away - Chris Goode, too

I love it that intelligent people with things to say that I want to hear,
from whom I can learn, take a form and make it theirs

in that sense it is a form

and someone saying This is is how it can be done

invites the response No, that's the way it was and still may be done

I know there are those who say *This is blogging, when all they can mean
is This is what *I do with blogging

Same as with those who say *This is poetry

That's why I friend up musicians these days

Trespass and subvert, Chris; trespass and subvert; surely that follows
from your sexual politics - not the detail but the thrust if you'll pardon
the expression

all best

L



On Thu, March 25, 2010 05:09, Chris Jones wrote:
> Since I have been doing this blog thing I have a feeling that most blogs
> I have seen appear, shall we say, not really understanding the media
> format that they are using.
>
> What I remember seeing most in blogs are long pieces of prose, over
> several screen pages. From my perspective, including my formal training,
> this seems very much a mistaken understanding of the media you are writing
> with, in this case a blog.
>
> Blogs need shorter, single screen pieces. Blogs are more like news paper
> or magazine journalism, where even with feature articles, this can be
> broken up to screen size chunks.
>
> Not sure if this makes sense and of course to be fair most blog writers
> don't have the sort of training I have had access to. Long pieces of prose
> are the way most people seem to write in without questioning the form.
> Journalism works with small chunks of text pasted together, so
> requires a writing technique made available only to a few trained
> professional writers. There's a problem here but can't expand more. (Type
> out a short news article, that is a good way to get a feel for this style
> of writing. The inverted pyramid; where, when, what, how, why eeks hope
> that's correct. You delete from the end to fit around the ads.)
>
> --
> I have chronic fatigue syndrome so I may be delayed in my reply. Just to
> let you know, that's all. Chris Jones.
>
> Blog: http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.com/
>
>


-- 
"The desire to testify": interview with Chris Goode
http://intercapillaryspace.blogspot.com/2010/02/desire-to-testify.html
["the fullest, or at least the broadest, account I've yet given of what it
is I think I do and what questions underwrite it" Chris Goode]

‘a song and a film’ by Lawrence Upton -- Veer Publications / Writers Forum
ISBN: 978-1-907088-05-6 A5 84 pages. 2009. £6.00

"water lines and other poems" by Lawrence Upton  - Pdf_16x16 111 pages
free download http://chalkeditions.co.cc

‘snap shots and video’ by Lawrence Upton -- Writers Forum
ISBN: 978-1-84254-113-5 A5 52 pages. £6.00

Lawrence Upton
AHRC Creative Research Fellow
Dept of Music
Goldsmiths, University of London

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