But, Barry, you know it's very easy to get kicked of list like this, so 
that's not saying much.




On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:53:52 +0000, Barry Alpert 
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>I can remember when Todd Swift was a member of Poetryetc.  It was 
an amusing 
>spectacle--his unconvincing "opinions" got him laughed off the list.  
Check the archive.
>
>Barry Alpert
>
>
>On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:55:34 +0000, Jeffrey Side 
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>
>>I don't think my being on Todd's blog means I have "sold-out"--if 
that's 
>>what you may be thinking. In a way, I wish I had it in me to sell-
out. 
>>But it is in my nature, as it is, I'm sure, in yours to always seem to 
be 
>>on the wrong side of any game—usually the losing side.  
>>
>>Todd is quite eclectic in his poetic tastes. He likes what is good in 
both 
>>mainstream and non-mainstream poetry. I don't think he is a 
particular 
>>champion of one or the other.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:15:50 +0000, Desmond Swords 
>><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>>That's it. You've seen the error of your ways and have begun to 
play 
>>the
>>>game as it should be. Eyewear is a very prestigious mainstream
>>>avant-freindly blog. You know that don't you? And that Swift is one 
of 
>>the
>>>most able theoreticians and commentators on, not only British 
poetic
>>>culture, but the global one. Your playing with the big kids now, 
who 
>>take
>>>seriously their games and status in the playground. Do right by us, 
>>learn
>>>how to ...you know what I am taking about, and we'll do right by 
you.
>>>
>>>It's about time you grasped the pointlessness of nailing yourself to 
a
>>>flimsy Poundian cross and dropped the act to come on board of the 
MS
>>>express. You say nice things about the right kind of people, 
P.L.U's, 
>>people
>>>like us, and just watch what a nod and wink can bring in the way of 
>>kudos,
>>>respect and all the sorts of top-table opportunities you don't find 
in 
>>the
>>>staff rooms of under-seige English depts performing at the  arse-
end 
>>of UK
>>>poetry.
>>>
>>>I've dropped the act myself, started being more compliant with the 
>>tenor in
>>>one’s spam. From now on I’m taking po-biz seriously and 
strategically
>>>starting to blurb whoever i think it is of poetic benefit to do so, for 
me
>>>personally on a comedic level, as a pretty unhappy person not 
getting 
>>on in
>>>UK Poetry because i am discriminated against due to my popularity 
in 
>>the
>>>states of lexical prejudice in things like ‘colour’ and color, 
pavement 
>>and
>>>sidewalk, the john or the jacks, labour or labor, and culturally 
slipping
>>>into a disadvantage of being the absent other who has been very 
>>much rent
>>>apart by the collapse of capitalism, dream and fiction ....I dunno.
>>>
>>>What i do know is i'm stopping being stupid as a cultural agitator 
and
>>>starting getting crafty, being nice, making sure to say the right 
things 
>>to
>>>the right people, embracing the use of emoticoms as tools for 
practical
>>>advancement of my career, familiarizing oneself with the html and 
>>internet
>>>shorthand that will allow people to feel comfortable about having 
me 
>>on
>>>board their freinds lists and as an ally there to back them up with 
an
>>>affirmative one-liner agreeing with 'em 'what Jeff said' and, by 
>>deploying
>>>the correct smilies in innovative and interesting ways, work a way 
up 
>>the
>>>ladder of online success. Who knows, one day I might even appear 
in 
>>the
>>>Manchester Review. Hit the big time if my strategy of sucking up to
>>>McAuliffe and that mob, pays off and the toadying gets me the 
official
>>>sanction from a rag connected to she I have decided to put at the 
top 
>>of my
>>>to-say-nice-things-about-list, Dame Carol and Sir Andrew.
>>>
>>>Who knows, one day I might even get some minor recognition of 
my 
>>services to
>>>UK poetry, if I play the game right and become a dependable 
blurbist
>>>promoting the right kind of poetry for the right kind of audience, 
>>serving
>>>others instead of serving one's selfishness, embracing the kind of 
>>poetry
>>>that makes the UK great, the straight-up lyric eyes who rhyme and 
>>don't mess
>>>about with anything pointlessly experimental or try anything too 
>>foreign.
>>>English is what I speak, England's where I'm from and I'm quitting 
the 
>>Irish
>>>scene, because it's just a waste of space Jeff.
>>>
>>>It bores me. It's too insular, the poets are not that exciting and 
>>there's
>>>no money in it, so from now on, I want to be known as English and 
ask
>>>forgiveness from the the people I foolishly took against when 
starting 
>>out,
>>>conned by the Irish into saying fairly tasteless things about the 
poets 
>>I
>>>was jealous of in England who, knowing I could not compare with 
>>them because
>>>they were so much more classy than me, I decided, foolishly and 
>>impelled
>>>only by shallow self-interest, to compete with them and learnt the 
>>hard way,
>>>they're just too good for me. So, I am asking Todd as a very 
influential
>>>representitive of English poetry, please can I come back home?
>>>
>>>I also wish to apologise to everyone I have offended and can only 
ask 
>>you
>>>please, please give me another chance. There's no excuse for going 
>>against
>>>the grain because I was jealous of you all, and I promise if you do 
>>extend
>>>another go my way, I will compose only excellent and supportive 
>>comments
>>>about you personally and your work.
>>>
>>>Sorry, I was a div, please, please do not let this affect the 
outcome of 
>>my
>>>facebook request.
>>>
>>>(:->