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Indeed. Henken is primarily I think a folklorist and her study looks at patterning in hagiographic writing in the widest sense - she looks at poetry and proverbs (and the Welsh triads - ' three bodies which God created for Teilo, at Llandaf, Llandeilo and Penalun' etc) as well as vitae.
Her index of motifs had a couple more fire references - a story about Cadoc (Wade-Evans, Vitae Sanctorum Britanniae p 112-3 in which after his death his followers are forced to flee from the English with his shrine. On of the English catches them and breaks off a wing from the shrine with an axe. The wing burns like fire and he melts away like wax. There's also a story of St David burning a tower, in D. Simon Evans' edition of Buched Dewi.
Maddy
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Subject: Re: [M-R] vengeful saints: the Irish dimension
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From: Madeleine Gray <[log in to unmask]>
> Elissa Henken's The Welsh Saints: a study in patterned lives
an intriguing title.
does "patterned lives" refer to the prominent role played by topoi in the
hagiographies?
is it, essentially, a study of "patterning" in hagiographic writing?
>has lots of examples of punishment miracles. Cadog (again) was refused fire
by a peasant. He cursed him, asking God to burn the man, the threshing floor
was the "threshing floor" made of wood?
>and the grain, and to enslave his descendants. I can't actually find one of a
statue bursting into flames but it wouldn't surprise me.
i suspect Suspension of Surprise is a requisite to reading about these guys
and their interactions with their vengeful deity.
c
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