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Re: OpenAthens, EntityIDs, WAYFless URLs RE: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] Creative Club - Athens

From:

Nicole Harris <[log in to unmask]>

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An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:03:03 +0000

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Hi Paul

You could use this URL, which is the standard Athens Authentication 
point for Creative Club:

https://auth.athensams.net/?ath_returl=%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.creativeclub.co.uk%2Ft%2Fathens.asp%22&ath_dspid=THOMSONMEDIA

or a slight variation of this: 

https://auth.athensams.net/?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.creativeclub.co.uk%2Fsecure%2Fenviroment.aspx&shire=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.creativeclub.co.uk%2FShibboleth.sso%2FSAML%2FPOST&providerId=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.creativeclub.co.uk%2Fshibboleth-sp

which is the athens authentication point reached through the federation 
WAYF. 

Either way, because you are effectively always pointing the user to the 
athens authentication point rather than to an IdP within an institution, 
you cannot make it 'Lincoln' specific. 

Hope that helps

Nicole

Paul Stainthorp wrote:
> Thanks (again, again) to everyone who's offered help with this.
>
> Re: WAYFless URLs more generally.
>
> I'd love to be able to create our own WAYFless URLs like this one,
> below, but our EntityID (https://idp.lincoln.ac.uk/shibboleth) is a
> namespace only - we don't have anything running at that location (like a
> Shibboleth service) - we use OpenAthens.
>
> In total ignorance - has anyone who is using OpenAthens as their IdP
> made the URL corresponding to their EntityID into a 'real' service by
> pointing it somehow at OpenAthens?
>
> (Possibly, it's only the University of Lincoln that HASN'T taken this
> obvious step - I must admit, Eduserv suggested there was no need to do
> so, so I put the idea out of my head until now.)
>
> I can see real benefits, if only in terms of creating more reliable
> WAYFless URLs that don't rely on the largesse of a particular Service
> Provider.
>
> Still, always, learning,
>
> Paul 
>
>
> Paul Stainthorp | Electronic Resources Librarian
>
> The Great Central Warehouse University Library
> University of Lincoln, Brayford Pool, LINCOLN, LN6 7TS, UK
>
> Tel: +44 (0)1522 88 6193
> Fax: +44 (0)1522 88 6047
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> Website: www.library.lincoln.ac.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information
> Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James
> Fisher
> Sent: 11 March 2010 12:35
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] Creative Club - Athens
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> We were informed by Laura Turner at Billetts Media Monitoring that they
> couldn't supply a WAYFless URL. However, we created one, which uses the
> same format as that suggested by Nicole. Ours looks like this:
> https://idp.coventry.ac.uk/shibboleth-idp/SSO?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cr
> eativeclub.co.uk%2Fsecure%2Fenviroment.aspx&shire=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.crea
> tiveclub.co.uk%2FShibboleth.sso%2FSAML%2FPOST&providerId=https%3A%2F%2Fw
> ww.creativeclub.co.uk%2Fshibboleth-sp
>
> We tested this for a few months and it seemed stable so we've been using
> this as our main off-campus link to Creative Club for the last 3 months
> and it is still working well.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> James
>
> James Fisher
> E-Resources Co-ordinator
> Lanchester Library
> Coventry University
> 024 7679 5582
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information
> Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nicole
> Harris
> Sent: 11 March 2010 09:51
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] Creative Club - Athens
>
> Hi All
>
> I use the following wayfless url for Creative Club that seems to work
> fine:
>
> |https://idp.jisc.ac.uk/shibboleth-idp/SSO?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.creat
> iveclub.co.uk%2Fsecure%2Fenviroment.aspx&shire=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.creativ
> eclub.co.uk%2FShibboleth.sso%2FSAML%2FPOST&providerId=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> creativeclub.co.uk%2Fshibboleth-sp
> |
>
> If you replace everything up to the 'SSO' with your own entityID it
> should be fine.
>
> I agree with Sarah that the interface is particularly poor on this one.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Nicole
>
>
>
> Sarah Pearson wrote:
>   
>> Hello Paul,
>>
>> At University of Birmingham we use Shibboleth to link to Creative
>>     
> Club. We didn't renew our OpenAthens subscription after July 2009 so we
> moved to Shibboleth before August last year for this resource but I
> don't have any email history now. 
>   
>> Unfortunately, we asked them about WAYFLess URL access in September
>>     
> 2009 but were told this was not an option. So, we just link to the
> homepage from our library portal and users need to go through the WAYF.
> We have a note on our library portal for this resource as follows:
>   
>> "When on the Creative Club page it is necessary to click the
>>     
> Shibboleth login button at the top right hand corner then select
> 'University of Birmingham' from the drop down list."
>   
>> Once logged in, there is no indication that you are logged in as your
>>     
> home institution which is a bit frustrating. All there is is a 'Log out'
> button to let you know that you are logged in successfully via the WAYF.
>
>   
>> We also had intermittent problems accessing this resource last year
>>     
> around the same time. 
>   
>> Regards
>> Sarah
>>
>> Sarah Pearson
>> E-Resources & Serials Coordinator
>> Library Services
>> University of Birmingham
>> Edgbaston
>> Birmingham
>> UK
>> B15 2TT
>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>> Tel: 0121 414 5825
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the
>>     
> Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Paul Stainthorp
>   
>> Sent: 10 March 2010 15:45
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] Creative Club - Athens
>>
>> Hello,
>>  
>> Wondering: does anyone have any details about changes to the 
>> authentication options for Creative Club (www.creativeclub.co.uk) ?
>>
>> Athens option has disappeared (I can't find any notification of this, 
>> but it's quite possible I have misfiled it!) and our access was 
>> interrupted.
>>  
>> Could I ask any C.C. subscribers:
>>  
>> *Is your (Athens?) access to Creative Club working?  
>> *If you've moved to Shibboleth login option - have you managed to
>>     
> create
>   
>> a WAYFless URL ?    
>> *Does anyone have any documentation/notification about the change /
>> removal of Athens access that they'd be willing to share?    
>>
>> With very many thanks,
>>  
>> Paul
>>  
>> Paul Stainthorp | Electronic Resources Librarian
>>
>> The Great Central Warehouse University Library University of Lincoln, 
>> Brayford Pool, LINCOLN, LN6 7TS, UK
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1522 88 6193
>> Fax: +44 (0)1522 88 6047
>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>> Website: www.library.lincoln.ac.uk
>>
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