I'd wobble it further chris and speculate (grin) that the potential deity
you're in danger of invoking is called 'the market'. Whose hidden hand moves
amongst us and whose diktats must be obeyed, even if it results in misery
for millions.
On 30 March 2010 09:05, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Although I can see where you're coming from Chris I don't think you were
> invoking any deity in that sentence. 'It' is neither 'he' nor 'she' nor
> 'you' nor 'I' nor 'we' nor 'us'. 'It' can be an aggregate of human actions,
> as in this case, or a non-human process, as in the case of an 'it' that 'is
> raining'.
> Certainly people can personify 'it', but that projection is a verbal
> projection of that inexplicable thing, one's selfhood, the weather of who we
> are, onto the generality of other eyes and I's, and the unpredictabilty of
> what comes next (yes, we can do tricks with eclipses, but not the next
> tsunami).
> Of course 'it' can be used to justify acts of cruelty, but 'we' indulge in
> such evasions all the time, unless you're proclaiming some new Jerusalem
> where all gays are spotless and free of sin and the rest of creation is the
> damned.
> I've known plenty of gays over the years and I'd say the proportion of the
> vile among them is much the same as for most other groups. What has been
> striking is how many of them are right-wing, extremely so, in fact.
> On 30 March 2010 08:00, Chris Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 17:31 +1100, Chris Jones wrote:
>> > Navigatio would possibly sell for more now, if a good copy came on the
>> > market, it is considered important
>>
>> And damn it! Here I go again referring to a higher power, that use of
>> the word, considered, being such a plea. Delete "considered" and say it
>> more confidently. (Who is the transcendent God, that considered higher
>> power.)
>>
>> I find one thing male gay and women writers have in common is this
>> appeal to some sort of higher power as if we are simply not good enough.
>> I must get over this sad illness and stick my I up the nose of
>> masculinist super-ego no need to say I since masculine super-ego
>> universal I remains silently implied condemning those others saying I as
>> egotist which is a sentence of death to those so referred. (And I am
>> going to say I. It matters. ACTION=LIFE ACT-UP)
>>
>> (Even Foucault did this to himself; not good enough, he tells himself.
>> That personage that is still uncomfortable.)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I have chronic fatigue syndrome so I may be delayed in my reply. Just to
>> let you know, that's all. Chris Jones.
>>
>> Blog: http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.com/
>>
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