Hi Nicole (and others),
Sorry to bore some of you, but as I said this is a learning process for all parties and it's sometimes useful to share these experiences in the hope that it will become less onerous in the future.
I jumped the gun (probably just over excitement) by assuming that all I had to do was go into the various Atypon administrative areas and add the relevant URL to Shibboleth authentication. Instead it's a two stage process - contact the publisher and request the option, wait for the response and then either it's done for you or if you have to go and enter the details yourself.
The University of California Press responded almost immediately and everything is now sorted without any further effort needed by me which is excellent.
What's been quite interesting is the subtle differences between each Atypon system and the fact that one of them - University of Chicago Press - didn't even give me the option to send a copy of the feedback form to myself as a record.
Cheers
Lesley
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From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nicole Harris
Sent: 18 March 2010 15:03
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Subject: Re: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] American Chemical Society New Platform Doesn't Support ATHENS
Hi Lesley
The only ones I am aware of having this are New England Journal of
Medicine (https://secure.nejm.org/Institute/Account/default.aspx) and
Liebert Online (manage your account link on homepage:
http://www.liebertonline.com/?cookieSet=1). I'd imagine that some of
the others do have this functionality but it may be buried on a page
that only librarians have access to. Full details of everything I know
about Atypon resources below, would be really useful to know if anyone
else has further information!
Much appreciated
Nicole
_Annual Reviews_: no Athens login box but athens users can access via
publisher provided WAYF - correct terminology used. Institution needs
to contact to be added.
_Informahealthcare_: separate 'athens' and 'shibboleth' login links.
Terminology needs to be changed. Shibboleth link takes you to a
publisher provided WAYF. Institution needs to contact to be added.
_Future Medicine_: separate 'athens' and 'shibboleth' login links.
Terminology needs to be changed. Shibboleth link takes you to a
publisher provided WAYF. Institution needs to contact to be added.
_Expert Reviews_: separate 'athens' and 'shibboleth' login links.
Terminology needs to be changed. Shibboleth link takes you to a
publisher provided WAYF. Institution needs to contact to be added.
_Edinburgh University Press_: no Athens login box and only a shibboleth
link. Terminology needs to be changed. Shibboleth link takes you to a
publisher provided WAYF. Institution needs to contact to be added.
_American Statistical Association_: no Athens login box but athens users
can access via publisher provided WAYF - correct terminology used.
Institution needs to contact to be added.
_MIT Press Journals_: no Athens login box but athens users can access
via publisher provided WAYF - correct terminology used. Institution
needs to contact to be added.
_BioOne_: no Athens login box but athens users can access via publisher
provided WAYF - correct terminology used, but adds 'via shibboleth'
which is misleading. Institution needs to contact to be added.
_Chicago Journals_: no Athens login box and only a shibboleth link.
Terminology needs to be changed. Shibboleth link takes you to a
publisher provided WAYF. Institution needs to contact to be added.
_CALIBER_: no Athens login box but athens users can access via publisher
provided WAYF - correct terminology used. Institution needs to contact
to be added.
_Reference Global_: no Athens login box but athens users can access via
publisher provided WAYF - correct terminology used. Institution needs
to contact to be added.
_Morgan Claypool_: no Athens login box but athens users can access via
publisher provided WAYF - correct terminology used. Institution needs
to contact to be added.
_New England Journal of Medicine_: athens and institutional login routes
- but very hard to find. Institution needs to contact to be added but
this can be done here:
https://secure.nejm.org/Institute/Account/default.aspx.
_Liebert Online_: no Athens login box but athens users can access via
publisher provided WAYF - correct terminology used. Institution needs
to contact to be added, but this can be done following links on home page.
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Crawshaw, Lesley A wrote:
> Hi Nicole,
>
> I have now received a reply from the ACS and they've told me I can do this myself (lucky me!) by logging into the ACS Admin Area, clicking on Access Rights and I will then see the Window to add the URL to Shibboleth authentication. I have now done this and everything is working fine. The list of institutions detailed at: http://pubs.acs.org/action/ssostart has grown since yesterday.
>
> Does this mean that I can (have to) do this for all other Atypon-hosted systems which have this option in their Admin Area?
>
> It's a pity that Atypon doesn't have a centralised system for doing this in one place rather than having to go to each individual (and the number is growing all the time) Atypon site. I guess they think us "librarians" haven't got enough work to do!
>
> Now onto the rest of the Atypon sites where we have journal access!
>
> One has to say there is always so much to learn (and work to do) in the world of e-resources.
>
> Cheers
> Lesley
>
>
> Lesley Crawshaw
> Knowledge & Business Intelligence Consultant
> Information Hertfordshire
> University of Hertfordshire
> Tel: 01707 285508
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nicole Harris
> Sent: 17 March 2010 13:21
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] American Chemical Society New Platform Doesn't Support ATHENS
>
> Hi Lesley
>
> Just to add to what Mark says, all you need to do is contact ACS and ask
> to be added to their publisher WAYF, which is here:
> http://pubs.acs.org/action/ssostart, citing your entity ID which is
> |https://idp.herts.ac.uk/shibboleth for the University of Hertfordshire.
>
> ACS are wrong to have used the word 'shibboleth login' instead of the
> recommend home institution / organisation as the word 'shibboleth' is
> entirely misleading, and we have contacted them about this. Even if a
> publisher drops the Athens login box from their site, athens users will
> be able to access via the federated route.
>
> I'm afraid we will see more and more publishers choosing to drop the
> 'Athens' link from their home pages due to the costs of maintaining
> this, so it is essential that we hassle them to get their terminology
> right!
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Nicole
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> Mark Williams (JISC) wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If a Service provider has made content available through the UK federation, then Open Athens institutions who are members of the UK Federation will be able to access the content.
>>
>> I think the problem here is that the term Shibboleth has become synonymous with the Federation, when actually Service Providers mean providing access via the federation (meaning shibboleth and Open Athens users).
>>
>> If anyone has any questions please feel free to reply off list.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Williams
>> JISC Collections
>> T - 02030066042
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>> Blog: http://access.jiscinvolve.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crawshaw, Lesley A
>> Sent: 17 March 2010 12:20
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] American Chemical Society New Platform Doesn't Support ATHENS
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following on from the discussion about problems with ATHENS access to Creative Club I thought I'd raise a related issue of another publisher, ACS, which only provides Shibboleth and IP access on its new platform.
>>
>> I did raise the issue of when access to ATHENS was going to be available on the new ACS platform through NESLi2 at the end of 2009 and was told that they had bypassed ATHENS and gone straight to Shibboleth compliancy. I did question this as we are not currently using Shibboleth (and I know we aren't the only institution in this position) and was told that ACS wouldn't be implementing ATHENS as they saw this as becoming obsolete.
>>
>> I have to say I wasn't happy with this response as other new platforms e.g. Informa Healthcare have recently become compliant with ATHENS (and presumably Shibboleth).
>>
>> If IHC can provide access through ATHENS, why can't the ACS? Surely the ACS should be trying to meet the needs of all its customers, not just those who have already moved to Shibboleth.
>>
>> I just wondered whether others are in the same position.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lesley
>>
>>
>> Lesley Crawshaw
>> Knowledge & Business Intelligence Consultant
>> Information Hertfordshire
>> University of Hertfordshire
>> Tel: 01707 285508
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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