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Subject:

Re: Phil Jones, UEA, exonerated on ClimateGate ... and "Gulf Steam"?

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Alastair McIntosh <[log in to unmask]>

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Alastair McIntosh <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:25:14 +0100

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Very many thanks for that on the "Gulf Stream", David (see below), all the
moreso from yourself as an oceanographer. 

What you say concurs with what Duncan McLaren at FOES and Adrian Shaw,
climate change officer at the Church of Scotland have also suggested in
private emails this morning. Adrian also sent the following link to what
seems to be a good article on the question that was published in The
Scotsman -
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/news/Villain-of-the-winter39s-tale.5961809.j
p

Alastair. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for the Crisis Forum
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cromwell D.
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Subject: Re: Phil Jones, UEA, exonerated on ClimateGate ... and "Gulf
Steam"?

Thanks Alastair,

Interesting to see those.

On Gulf Stream measurements - they're as reliable as humanly/technically
possible. But, as you suggest, the relatively short operational timespan for
the RAPID array (across the North Atlantic near 26 degrees N) has yielded no
real evidence of any slowdown so far:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8589512.stm

Background info: http://www.noc.soton.ac.uk/rapid/

Best wishes

David


On 31/03/2010 10:39, "Alastair McIntosh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Folks ... For the report on the findings on the House of Commons enquiry
see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8595483.stm

Also, for context in terms of the level of FOI requests that were being
made, see the attached cutting from The Week in February.

Lastly, given that the University of Alabama Hunstsville (UAH) sattelite
data shows that, worldwide, both January and February have been
exceptionally warm - about 0.6 C above average (Europe and parts of N.
America were exceptions, not the rule)* - does anybody know what has been
happening to the "Gulf Stream" over this period? I have not picked up on any
commentary about this, so there's maybe nothing to comment on, but it would
seem to my untutored eye that a dramatic cooling in N. Atlantic areas could
be consistent with a slow-down. However, if I understand rightly current
measurement of this is open to many questions of reliability, so maybe
nobody's able to say on such a short time-span?

Alastair.


* UAH data sources on Jan/Feb warming in 2010 (paradoxically, from a climate
change researcher/skeptic website at UAH) :
January (including world isotherm map):
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/02/january-2010-global-tropospheric-tempera
ture-map/
February:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/03/february-2010-uah-global-temperature-upd
ate-version-5-3-unveiled/

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