I vote no on Academy
Too managerilist.  They forced out the arts, for no good reason.

If anything they need some culture jamming. Being part of AOM leads  
to more global AOM more colonizing by the managerialist mindset  
(except CMS and some other pockets) but the structure is like working  
for your dean.

I can tell you a story. When our conference group 'sc'MOI' (http:// 
scmoi.org) was an embryo inside a bigger academe structure, we grew,  
and then there came a time where we had to part ways. Perhaps its  
time to launch AACORN as its own conference. You will see from our  
history page, I was made president of the larger conference, the  
ousted for my art, for dressing as a clown, for being for peace in a  
time of war, and for a few other things, but mostly it was about art  
as critical discourse in a group that wanted to be conservative and  
suck up to Bush (they are still nice people, and we thank them for  
getting us our start).

We have existed for 19 years total, and next year celebrate our 20th  
at sc'MOI. So it can be done. We are surviving the dire economic  
times. We are small but wild and passionate about our scholarship.

AACORN could become its own event and academe structure, and lunch  
its own journal. It is inevitable


david
On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:35 AM, David Weir wrote:

> Hi;
> I agree with Steve. To be honest I fear coming under the umbrella  
> of any of the existing Academy structures. The pressures to  
> conform, have committees, make reports will become irresistible.
>  The thing about Art of Organisation is that its Outside for  
> Outsiders.
> Lets do what we can about Istanbul...but it doesn't have to be in  
> Istanbul, it could be in Liverpool, or Angmassalik or Scunthorpe...
> all best
> David
>
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> Subject: Re: Arts of (sustainable) Management recovery, recycling,  
> reprise, rejuvenation, return,
>
>> my previous mail should of course have read PDW not pdf!
>>
>> To pick up on echoes of previous mails, when we started the AMO  
>> conferences
>> they were aimed at a broad community, and very deliberately non- 
>> aligned. It
>> wasn't ever aligned with AACORN, but it became very important to  
>> AACORNERS
>> after the end of Academy Arts. We wanted to create a space which,  
>> though
>> primarily academic, was for doing academics DIFFERENTLY, where
>> practitioners could also practice without feeling the need to
>> intellectualise and abstract their work beyond the point where it  
>> felt
>> appropriate. And when we said Academic, we didn't mean business and
>> management academics only, and we didn't get just business and  
>> management
>> academics turning up. We were indulgent of inspired eccentricity  
>> whilst
>> encouraging of creative rigour, and ecstatic when the two came  
>> together.
>>
>> These things we didn't find in any of the academies, European or  
>> otherwise.
>> We had found them to a degree in SCOS, but SCOS purposes are  
>> different.
>> Academies are gifted and compulsive when it comes to killing  
>> creativity
>> behind a banner of supposed "quality". Whilst if AACORNERS want to  
>> meet and
>> discuss Art and Management and Organization in Montreal they have  
>> every
>> right to do so, and Paul is to be thanked for generously offering  
>> that
>> opportunity, I wouldn't want that to be thought of as the Art of  
>> Management
>> and Organization Conference. I'd rather there be a discreet pause, a
>> considered regrouping, and a graceful return in a suitably  
>> understated
>> blaze of glory into the uncoopted space we have carved out for  
>> everyone.
>>
>> Steve L.
>>
>> On Mar 23 2010, creativepathways wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All
>>>
>>> I am not an academic but attended the Banff conference,my first  
>>> ever. I
>>> found myself in the wonderful company of "like minds and  
>>> souls"and was
>>> very stimulated by the conference. So much so that in the last  
>>> two years
>>> questions that I have mulled over for twenty, start to find  
>>> direction.
>>> The sense of participating,being part of this community, was much  
>>> more
>>> than just stimulating or inspiring for me personally.
>>>
>>> Working without institutional backing I can only offer than my  
>>> heartfelt
>>> encouragement and thanks to this community many of you whom I now  
>>> know
>>> albeit if only through your conversations and papers.
>>>
>>> I feel the openness of this community to be its glue and its non
>>> judgmental aspirations its guiding star.As a practitioner I would be
>>> deeply saddened to feel this welcome opening into a unique world of
>>> enquiry could close in any way. I wish to encourage those that  
>>> can, to
>>> carry the same spirit of AACORN through this crisis, which will  
>>> be rich
>>> in new opportunities, and thank you all for your serendipitous  
>>> part in my
>>> own journey.
>>>
>>> warm regards
>>> David Kayrouz
>>>
>>
>
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