Swensen: Yes, and, really, throw a rock.
She did write such rich hour AFTER Pattie McCarthy wrote bk of (h)rs.
While she writes about hands A LOT, I think the genesis for 100 hands
was a book of noh drama attitudes? t'ai chi gestures? yoga? that
Jena Osman had been using the text from. So she did a series using
the pictures. She demonstrated the pictures when she read from the
poems, and flashed a xerox of the page, and her poem was a description
of the picture.
I have heard her mention her sources in intros to Park as well.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Barry Alpert <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks for the added detail and clarifications. I don't receive any reports about Mary Jo
> Bang, so two examples of her writing exercises help me gain a better sense of her
> activity. With regard to Cole Swenson, I'll try what you suggest, but the closest she has
> come to mentioning found poetry within my hearing has been to provide copies of French
> poetry she's translated. Could you mention some younger poets who extrapolate from
> Cole Swenson's example? So the coherency of such a collection in part results from
> using one substantial book as a source?
> Barry Alpert
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:22:38 -0800, Catherine Daly <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>Bang: Reread Louise in Love.
>>One of her key workshop revision exercises is to recommend taking two
>>non-working poems and smash them together, suspending sense.
>>She also -- I don't know if they are in a collection -- for about a
>>year used writing answering submissions for theme issues of journals
>>as writing exercise. I.e., write a poem about television for journal
>>x; write a poem about cows for journal y.
>>Cole Swensen's newer work is almost entirely found in some way. Oh,
>>Try, Book of 100 Hands, Such Rich Hour, Park, Ours... Look at the
>>source together with the poetry. You'll find descriptions of what
>>appears on the source page, translations from the French source,
>>findings from critics together with quotes from the operas. I'm not
>>saying it is bad, but that it is procedural -- pick a thing and so the
>>Swensen -- and that younger poets are starting to do it with
>>increasing frequency, because it generates a very coherent and
>>researched collection of poems with less effort.
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