Helen,
I was told back in June that it was a 'point in time copy of the
thesaurus' and that EH were looking to link the Gateway to the English
Heritage Knowledge Organization System (EHKOS) to maintain an up-to-date
link. That doesn't seem to have happened yet.
Paul Gilman
Historic Environment Records Manager
Environment and Commerce
Essex County Council
County Hall
Chelmsford
CM1 1QH
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
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Sent: 14 January 2010 15:50
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Subject: Re: Narrower Terms: Heritage Gateway behaviour
Well Cat said they'd be using an up to date parish list in a few months
- I didn't know they weren't using an up to date thesaurus, maybe
they'll change that too. :)
Helen Wells
Assistant Planning Archaeologist/Historic Environment Record Officer
Leicestershire County Council
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
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Sent: 14 January 2010 15:45
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Subject: Re: Narrower Terms: Heritage Gateway behaviour
I'd also like to put in a plea for the Heritage Gateway to use or be
linked to an up-to-date version of the thesaurus. I have been having
problems with my searches with records not being retrieved, even when I
know they are there, simply because they were indexed using more recent
thesaurus terms. I raised this issue last June, but it still hasn't been
fixed.
Paul Gilman
Historic Environment Records Manager
Environment and Commerce
Essex County Council
County Hall
Chelmsford
CM1 1QH
Tel: 01245 437636
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Sent: 14 January 2010 15:30
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Subject: Re: Narrower Terms: Heritage Gateway behaviour
I noticed a lot of odd stuff comes up when you search for 'airfield' on
the Gateway (or is that just me?).
Helen Wells
Assistant Planning Archaeologist/Historic Environment Record Officer
Leicestershire County Council
http://www.leics.gov.uk/historic_natural_environment_archaeology
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
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Sent: 14 January 2010 15:10
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Subject: Narrower Terms: Heritage Gateway behaviour
Again while taking the SQL hatchet to records from Central Beds (sorry
Sam), I've investigated Heritage Gateway behaviour in this respect...
When you do a search for a term (such as CAIRN - sorry Chris)...
* Pastscape - returns records indexed with CAIRN or its narrow
terms.
* All HBSMR datasets - ditto.
* Lake District - returns only the specific term. CAIRN >> 28
records. RING CAIRN >> 88 records.
* Somerset - perhaps returns narrow terms, but cannot tell for
sure as the records do not reveal their monument types. Chris can you
confirm? Why no mon types shown (or am I being thick and blind!)?
* Tyne and Wear - possibly work in progress!?!? A search for
CLEARANCE CAIRN takes ages and returns >11000 records. Narrow terms,
parent terms, and unrelated terms ?
* Other (LB online etc) not tested.
The different behaviours are worrying - clearly this should be handled
in the same way by all, or users have no idea what they are getting as
results.
yours
Crispin
PS And Mark at Lincs has confirmed that the HBSMR Gateway finds records
with the complete set of child terms for (e.g. BRIDGE), and so does not
suffer the same problem that Phil has been helping to fix.
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