re 'How many get more than about 20 readers?'
Douglas Does that include the author and editor?
Cheers Patrick
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I dont know the exact number, Andrew, but there are quite a lot. I'll
see if I can track it down, but dont hold your breath. Basically,
there are so many really small presses, as well as any number of
chapbook publishers, I cant keep track of them. So I'd hazard close to
a thousand....
How many get more than about 20 readers? Ah, that's another question
completely....
Doug
On 7-Dec-09, at 5:02 PM, andrew burke wrote:
> Thank you, David. (And, fyi, Hal and Patrick.) so, 2000 England aned
> 4000
> USA are about right. Any indication of Canada's per annum figures,
> Doug? &
> NZ - they are a lively lot, but some cross the channel and live in Oz.
>
> Very interesting - soooo many!
>
>
> Andrew
>
> 2009/12/8 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> I know Patrick I was just quoting the figure for books in response to
>> Andrew's questions.
>>
>> Apart from Michael Schmidt's facts the other thing I didn't know
>> was that
>> the (London) Poetry Society was originally the Poetry Recital
>> Society.
>> Interesting, that.
>>
>> Did you really find the types of publishing all that much: all it
>> extended
>> to was downloads for i-pods and the like, hardly trail-blazing stuff.
>> There's a witticism in the programme notes I like along the lines
>> of is
>> this
>> ( poems on the underground, poetry podcasts etc) making poetry more
>> accessible or just harder to avoid?!
>>
>> best
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/7 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>> Davey but the program also went into all the different types of
>>> 'publishing'
>>> web aural tapes cd's radio and more things my poor old addled
>>> brain can,t
>>> recall -oh yes getting a scribe to write it up for you which
>>> complicated
>>> the
>>> picture shortage of scribes in Raynes Park and the scrolls aren't
>>> what
>> they
>>> used to be -stone so time consuming but lasts (keep to haikus)
>>> Can't beat clay tablets -save trees I say
>>> Patrick clay paws
>>>
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>>> Behalf Of David Bircumshaw
>>> Sent: 07 December 2009 18:21
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>>> Subject: Re: how many poetry books per annum?
>>>
>>> The BBC programme was 'Exploring Our Amazement; Poetry and Its
>>> Audience'
>> on
>>> Radio 3 last night and is at:
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00p6swm
>>>
>>> ( I know : it is amazing poetry has an audience)
>>> 2009/12/7 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> In a BBC programme broadcast last night Michael Schmidt (he of
>> Carcanet)
>>>> claimed that 2,000 copies were published in England (did he mean
>>>> the
>> UK?)
>>>> per annum whereas it was about 150 when he started Carcanet 30 odd
>> years
>>>> ago.
>>>> While I've recently seen a figure of 4,000 per annum for the U.S
>>>> of A.
>>>>
>>>> However pin-point those figures are I think they give a something-
>>>> like-what-it-is accuracy. I'd imagine the main reasons include the
>>> relative
>>>> ease and cheapness of printing technology nowadays and the
>> superabundance
>>> of
>>>> both the early retired and the ambitious.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/12/7 andrew burke <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious if an answer is possible to my query: How many poetry
>>>> books
>>> are
>>>>> published per annum in USA? UK? Canada? NZ? Other English writing
>>>>> cultures?
>>>>> In Australia, a friend who should know says over 150 poetry
>> collections
>>>>> have
>>>>> been published here in the past year. Amazing - I never thought
>>>>> the
>>> figure
>>>>> would be so high.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any figures, or well founded guesstimates? I see
>>>>> lists of
>>> new
>>>>> titles on Poetry Daily and on Ron Silliman's blog and I am always
>>>>> surprised
>>>>> at the number of poets I have never heard of bringing out their
>>> umpteenth
>>>>> book! Or, even their first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, on my blog, there is an interesting article from the
>>>>> Guardian in
>> UK
>>>>> about the Bad Sex awards. Worth reading.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Beyond City Limits', pub. ICLL @ ECU, available at topnotch indie
>>>>> bookshops
>>>>> - list at http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> David Bircumshaw
>>>> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>>> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Bircumshaw
>>> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>>> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/
>>> animal.html
>>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
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>>
>> --
>> David Bircumshaw
>> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> Leicester Poetry Society: http://www.poetryleicester.co.uk
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew
>
> 'Beyond City Limits', pub. ICLL @ ECU, available at topnotch indie
> bookshops
> - list at http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
>
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