Thank you, David. (And, fyi, Hal and Patrick.) so, 2000 England aned 4000
USA are about right. Any indication of Canada's per annum figures, Doug? &
NZ - they are a lively lot, but some cross the channel and live in Oz.

Very interesting - soooo many!


Andrew

2009/12/8 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>

> I know Patrick I was just quoting the figure for books in response to
> Andrew's questions.
>
> Apart from Michael Schmidt's facts the other thing I didn't know was that
> the (London) Poetry Society was originally the Poetry Recital Society.
> Interesting, that.
>
> Did you really find the types of publishing all that much: all it extended
> to was downloads for i-pods and the like, hardly trail-blazing stuff.
> There's a witticism in the programme notes I like along the lines of is
> this
> ( poems on the underground, poetry podcasts etc) making poetry more
> accessible or just harder to avoid?!
>
> best
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> 2009/12/7 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
>
> > Davey but the program also went into all the different types of
> > 'publishing'
> > web aural tapes cd's radio and more things my poor old addled brain can,t
> > recall -oh yes getting a scribe to write it up for you which complicated
> > the
> > picture shortage of scribes in Raynes Park and the scrolls aren't what
> they
> > used to be -stone so time consuming but lasts (keep to haikus)
> > Can't beat clay tablets -save trees I say
> > Patrick clay paws
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf Of David Bircumshaw
> > Sent: 07 December 2009 18:21
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: how many poetry books per annum?
> >
> > The BBC programme was 'Exploring Our Amazement; Poetry and Its Audience'
> on
> > Radio 3 last night and is at:
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00p6swm
> >
> > ( I know : it is amazing poetry has an audience)
> > 2009/12/7 David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > In a BBC programme broadcast last night Michael Schmidt (he of
> Carcanet)
> > > claimed that 2,000 copies were published in England (did he mean the
> UK?)
> > > per annum whereas it was about 150 when he started Carcanet 30 odd
> years
> > > ago.
> > > While I've recently seen a figure of 4,000 per annum for the U.S of A.
> > >
> > > However pin-point those figures are I think they give a something-
> > > like-what-it-is accuracy. I'd imagine the main reasons include the
> > relative
> > > ease and cheapness of printing technology nowadays and the
> superabundance
> > of
> > > both the early retired and the ambitious.
> > >
> > > 2009/12/7 andrew burke <[log in to unmask]>
> > >
> > > I'm curious if an answer is possible to my query: How many poetry books
> > are
> > >> published per annum in USA? UK? Canada? NZ? Other English writing
> > >> cultures?
> > >> In Australia, a friend who should know says over 150 poetry
> collections
> > >> have
> > >> been published here in the past year. Amazing - I never thought the
> > figure
> > >> would be so high.
> > >>
> > >> Anyone have any figures, or well founded guesstimates? I see lists of
> > new
> > >> titles on Poetry Daily and on Ron Silliman's blog and I am always
> > >> surprised
> > >> at the number of poets I have never heard of bringing out their
> > umpteenth
> > >> book! Or, even their first.
> > >>
> > >> Btw, on my blog, there is an interesting article from the Guardian in
> UK
> > >> about the Bad Sex awards. Worth reading.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >> 'Beyond City Limits', pub. ICLL @ ECU, available at topnotch indie
> > >> bookshops
> > >> - list at http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > You say are poems" - DMeltzer
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> --
> David Bircumshaw
> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
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-- 
Andrew

'Beyond City Limits', pub. ICLL @ ECU, available at topnotch indie bookshops
- list at http://hispirits.blogspot.com/