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Re: tell me about MySpace

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Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:15:51 -0500

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On a rudimentary level now:  Double E students at U of Michigan used to tell
me that the U had basic classes in English comp---and then special English
comp classes for engineering students ['real life' was omitted from the
latter classes, they said].

Just as with accounting students, I found the double E guys [no females that
I recall] the wittiest [mebbe their 'Way Removed From Reality' quality
provides them a wit-base the rest of us don't have].

After graduating, I got only one job offer [having mailed out 150
letters/CVs]----and it was to teach English to engineers at the densely
snowy Houghton-Hancock MIT in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.  I went to Chicago
instead.  Wonder what I missed?  <g>

Judy

2009/11/13 Chris Jones <[log in to unmask]>

> On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 11:29 +0000, Dominic Fox wrote:
> > Owned by Murdoch. Assume the worst.
>
> Enough said. I get the message.
>
> It was as I suspected; myspace spamming itself. (Still think it is best
> to treat this as legit but for complex reasons.)
>
> Both facebook and myspace look like pop network theory along the line of
> six degrees of separation. The problem is that connections need to be
> made, so it may seem, and spamming seems to be an easy engineering
> solution to the problem of this apparent lack.
>
> However, based on real life concrete empirical experience, having
> studied electrical engineering at the most elite academic institution in
> the country and having worked for one of the most respected engineering
> consultancies in the country, I do know that engineers think in a very
> abstract academic idealised way foreclosed to the concrete facts of
> everyday real life. Just because if I jump out of the tenth level of a
> high rise building and hit the pavement, this would kill me, does not
> mean that the integration of F=ma will also kill me. This is the basic
> problem of Sokal's brand of privileged academic ontological idealism
> which is shared by the elite idealist academic investments in knowledge
> known as electrical engineering. (Of course, the epistemological
> consequences which, if Sokal is to be honest and act in good faith, are
> interesting. However he seems more concerned with his ruling class
> investments in knowledge, so cannot be trusted, as it currently
> appears.)
>
> So, we have the engineering solution of myspace spamming itself in an
> ideal hope of creating network links which cannot be realised in the
> real everyday concrete lives of real living human beings. One could
> perhaps laugh to cover ones embarrassed pity?
>
> best wishes, Chris Jones.
>
> (Trust my dialogic sense of humour is understood. I have that itch to
> read Bakhtin's Dialogic yet again.)
>

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