Is this actually related to industrialisation or to geographical location - Britain and Germany, being "northern" should probably be compared with the Scandinavian countries in terms of culinary "lack of flair" - which is at least partly undeserved is you delve into historical recipes - while France has the advantage of both northern climes where the cuisine is probably more akin to Britain and Germany and the Mediterranean end where it's got a Mediterranean triad based cuisine (so should be compared to Italy/Greece and possibly parts of North Africa).
Going back to the original question about naval matters, I think it's probably an historical given that France wasn't as able on sea as England, then Britain (given that Scotland was never a great naval power before the Union of the Crowns and was at least nominally allied to France for a fair slice of the Middle Ages so England/Britain is a distinction that needs to be made) but were more competent or at least evens, in general terms, on land - all the English who gloatingly refer to Agincourt and Crecy, for example, should then ask themselves why is it that the British monarchy doesn't still rule large areas of France and who actually won the 100 Years War.
From: British archaeology discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Shepherd
Sent: 16 November 2009 14:05
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Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Cunning Plan!
Ok. You might say that I can't take a joke, but with a French wife and proudly Anglo-French children I am beginning to find all this 'garlic-chomping' Frenchman nonsense a tad offensive. Probably coupled with the fact I have just been talking to an elderly French relative who lost a friend on the Bretagne at Mer-el-Kébir, I am also finding this gloating about Britain's well-recorded superiority at sea - especially at this time of the year when we are just pulling off the poppies from our lapels - doubly offensive.
So look. To get us back onto the purpose of this discussion list, has anyone come across recent research/studies that contrast the culinary 'lack-of-flair- of countries such as Britain and Germany which underwent industrialisation earlier with those recipe and cuisine rich countries, full of their appellations and regional variieties, such as France and Italy?
I read it or heard it somewhere, but can't for the life of me find the relevant reference.
can anyone help?
islington Heritage Services
On 16 Nov 2009, at 10:22, McCrone, Peter (NE) wrote:
> Very possible - you know, I didn't realise it was Friday already :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: British archaeology discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keith Hunt
> Sent: 16 November 2009 10:16
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> Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] Cunning Plan!
> In a message dated 16/11/2009 09:58:49 GMT Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> the most cunning plan after the revolution and during the Napoleonic Wars
> was to lurk in harbour while the Royal Navy wore out ships and men on long
> With both side growing garlic on board ?
> The French to deter - the English to confuse.
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