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Re: Planning Condition for the removal of asbestos!

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Robin MacKenzie <[log in to unmask]>

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Robin MacKenzie <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:52:14 -0000

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I would say that it is not generally a problem until the developers make
it one. If it is well managed and care is taken during the demolition
and the material is segregated for disposal then all well and good.
However, once a 30t machines bucket has gone through it and then through
a crusher then believe me it is a problem. Developers will generally
ignore the simple approach as they are not necessarily thinking like we
do. I have seen many cross contaminated piles of material throughout the
country fit for nothing other than special waste disposal and when
developers are faced with the disposal and management costs after the
fact; it's a wake up call they didn't really want to hear. There is no
problem with avoiding this situation through a planning condition as it
meets the tests. Better to have tried to avoid the extra work in sorting
it out when it's all gone pete tong. Notes to consents are generally
unenforceable where a good well worded "negative" and "enforceable"
condition does the job. You can have slate roofs removed for reuse
through a planning condition so why not the removal of asbestos for
disposal!

Yes it may be so that it doesn't constitute a pollutant linkage in its
current condition but take it a bit further, will the site be suitable
for the proposed use when its been cross contaminated with a few tons of
asbestos cement sheet roofing and there has been receptors introduced?
I've seen it before all too often and that's with conditions.

Do we have any planners on the forum?

Robin Mackenzie
Contaminated Land Co-ordinator
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Environment Service
Perth and Kinross Council
Pullar House
35 Kinnoull Street
PERTH
PH1 5GD
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Tel Direct Dial: 01738 476443
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-----Original Message-----
From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of GARETH
REES
Sent: 24 November 2009 13:15
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Planning Condition for the removal of asbestos!

the asbestos (I asume it is in good condition and still on the roof of a
building) does not pose a pollutant linkage if it was to remain.

The issue is to prevent contamintion of the site though poor
handling/removal and to protect the workers.  As previously stated this
is not the job of the planning permission.  this is the job of the
asbestos regulations, H&S@work legistaltion and the waste regs.

I usually get an advisory note added to the planning permission  this
covers the council as  they have informed the applicant that there may
be an issue with asbestos on the site and referred them to the
appropriate authority..

Thanks

Gareth Rees (MGEOL HONS FGS)

Environmental Protection Officer (Contaminated Land and Air Quality)
Environmental Health
North West Leicestershire District Council,
Council Offices, Whitwick Road,
Coalville,
Leicestershire,
LE67 3FJ

Tel:            01530 454 774
Email:  [log in to unmask]
website:        http://www.nwleics.gov.uk/

-----Original Message-----
From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clive
Williams
Sent: 24 November 2009 13:05
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Planning Condition for the removal of asbestos!

Why don't the standard conditions apply, you have in the Level 1
assessment identified a pollutant linkage that needs addressing?
There shouldn't be a need to have contaminant specific planning
conditions.

We are recycling 43% and rising - thank you!
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