Thanks for the response. I was having a difficult time conceptualizing
what exactly they represent in this design. From Eric Zarahn's email,
3/23/2009:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind0903&L=SPM&D=0&O=D&T=0&P=153402
The ith parameter in a general linear model is a partial slope that
represents the expected change in the dependent variable given a unit
change in the ith independent variable, all other independent
variables being held constant.
Since all timepoints are modeled, there is never a time where there is a
unit change in any one variable, holding the others constant. So, I
couldn't figure out what the real-world, non-abstract meaning of
beta(MT) would mean.
Does this also preclude getting beta values from an ROI and comparing
between the graphs (e.g. creating a bar graph with error bars)?
I'm considering combining the rest conditions into one, and leaving them
unspecified (thus giving me 3 columns in X: metronome tapping, self
tapping, session effect). Is this a better solution?
Thanks,
Chris
MCLAREN, Donald wrote:
> If every timepoint has an event that is modeled, then its really hard
> to interpret individual betas because you don't have a clearly defined
> reference point. If you were to model only 1 rest condition, then you
> could intepret the betas because they would be in reference to the
> unmodelled condition.
>
> Best Regards, Donald McLaren
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> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Chris Watson
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> Hello,
> I have a block design consisting of tapping to a metronome,
> self-paced tapping, and 2 different rest conditions. I have 2
> groups, and was interested in checking for differences between the
> groups of just one particular condition, e.g. if MT is metronome
> tapping, I'm interested in Group1(MT) > Group2(MT). The reason I'm
> interested, is that I found that the reason that Group1(MT>rest) >
> Group2(MT>rest) shows a lot of significant voxels is that the
> beta(MT) values are smaller than beta(rest) values for Group2.
> Is it valid to do a 2nd-level analysis, 2-sample t-test, using
> just the beta images? (I didn't create a contrast for just the MT
> condition at the 1st-level, because I have 2 types of rest
> conditions modeled, so every timepoint is modeled in X). I've
> already done it, but I want to be sure that it is a reliable measure.
>
> I can give more information if necessary.
> Thanks,
> Chris Watson
>
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