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Re: Johnson/Goldsmith debate

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Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:45:58 -0600

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Hey, grant him all that he says here, & for a reader, the thing 'made'  
is still boring as all get out, except perhaps AS A CONCEPT!

BTW, one might call Bök's work somewhat derivative, but it's certainly  
not boring the way KG's deliberate copies are; Eunoia is a  
stimulating, brilliant, & engaging work, because the riffs played on  
Oulipo therein are so delightful....

Doug
On 2-Oct-09, at 5:12 AM, Jeffrey Side wrote:

> Kent asked me to post his response to someone on the Digital
> Emunction blog:
>
> "OK, Bren nen, but if it isn’t, then what is it I might have  
> “plagiarized”?
> I’m not saying I haven’t, I’m just curi ous what you mean.
>
> I see that you are think ing about this at your blog in terms of  
> recent art
> his tory and theory, quot ing Danto, and I think that’s great (Kenny
> should think it’s great, too, since he’s sup pos edly all about  
> reflec tion
> and dis cus sion).
>
> In their writ ings on the Duchampian ready made and its neo-avant- 
> garde
> recy clings, I find crit ics like Buchloh and Foster more inter est  
> ing than
> Danto. Though they take strong excep tion to Burger’s whole sale dis
> missal of the neo-avant-garde, they’re also very crit i cal of ways  
> the
> great, orig i nal ready made move has been cut and pasted ad infini  
> tum
> into the art market since, say, Nou veau real isme– recy cled ges  
> tures
> with this or that generic tweak or nov elty, that is, emp tied of  
> any rad i
> cal, anti-&#8203;institutional charge– ready-&#8203;made, as it  
> were, for rapid cap ture
> and incor po ra tion by the net works of “Museum Culture.”
>
> This recy cling, I’d say, is trans par ently the case with the work  
> of Kenny
> Gold smith (Gold smith and Bok, to be sure, who despite their polemics
> for the ben e fits of ego-&#8203;less “uncreativity” seem to have  
> been drunk for
> the past few years on some kind of secret Author Func tion Ego Juice,
> are quite exu ber antly open about their desire for the Museum). KG’s
> work is “uncreative” and “boring” not just as affec tive exten sion  
> of its
> pro claimed poetic and “ontological” premises; it’s uncre ative and  
> boring
> because it’s so damn old hat: an attempted impor ta tion of decades- 
> &#8203;old
> ges tures into a Po-&#8203;Biz scene that, as Gold smith him self  
> puts it, “is forty
> years behind art,” and thus likely (at least part of its crowd) to  
> take
> his “conceptual” banal i ties as excit ing and new. In some cir  
> cles, they
> call it snake oil.
>
> But it’s MY Day, Bren nen, that is truly new, you see. The Authen tic
> Item. Because no one has ever done it quite like this before. I’ve  
> taken
> his whole bookum and made it mine, in single deci sive act. And doing
> so, I’ve put his pla gia rized bookum into the dust bin of sub- 
> &#8203;poetic sub-&#8203;
> history. I am being both funny and seri ous, in saying that. Dou  
> bled in
> my intent, so to speak, like the red-&#8203;hot “Doubled K” poker  
> that K.
> dream ily men tions in his blurb to my Day, where he acknowl edges me,
> his mir rored K, as his master. And it’s why he’s going to put my  
> book up
> on UbuWeb.
>
> And one more thing, though here I’m not kid ding around: What they
> call “Conceptual poetry”? It’s forty years behind Broodthaers and  
> Insti tu
> tional Cri tique.
>
> Kent"
>

Douglas Barbour
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