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Re: ILP for Study Mentor

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Penny Georgiou <[log in to unmask]>

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Penny Georgiou <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:39:42 +0100

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Dear Louisa,

 

This sounds like an awful lot of form filling. We need to find some way to navigate between necessary accountability, without the audit process becoming intrusive and thus taking over the aims and conceptions of the work; an inevitable effect of the bureaucratisation of practice.

 

I agree with Simon that it shouldn't be too difficult for a mentor to write something, preferably succinctly, identifying key issues and the work being undertaking in response. Much more than this becomes overkill. Students should be signing for attendance each session, with a few words indicating the areas of focus. One form for the term or semester or short invoicing period should be sufficient. 

 

Kind regards, 

 

Penny Georgiou

 

 

 



	-----Original Message----- 

	From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on behalf of Beejay, Louisa 

	Sent: Fri 16/10/2009 10:56 

	To: [log in to unmask] 

	Cc: 

	Subject: Re: ILP for Study Mentor

	

	



	At London South Bank University we introduced some useful forms last

	year that all mentors need to fill out:

	One is the Mentoring Plan, Progress and Summary report which engages

	both the student and mentor to plan what they are going to do in their

	mentoring sessions. It also gives both the student and mentor an

	opportunity to see what progress has been made in the sessions, which

	in itself will build the student's confidence and self-esteem.

	We have a Mentoring Log so every session the mentor and student fill

	out what they did in the session and the student counter-signs it to

	agree that is what they have done

	We have a Mentoring non-attendance form so we can monitor students who

	cancel or no-show.

	

	Through evaluating and monitoring both the students and mentors

	experience, we have found our system has worked very well with

	students with MH problems as it gives them a sense of solid structure

	and boundaries.

	

	Louisa

	

	

	Louisa Beejay

	Disability Officer(Mental Health)-Mon,Wed, Thur, Fri

	London South Bank University

	Disability and Dyslexia Support

	Perry Library, Level 4 Bridge

	103 Borough Road

	London

	SE1 0AA

	

	0207 815 6612 (Direct line)

	[log in to unmask]

	-----Original Message-----

	From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

	[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Jarvis

	Sent: 16 October 2009 10:45

	To: [log in to unmask]

	Subject: Re: ILP for Study Mentor

	

	Without trying to sound deliberately controversial, I think that

	mentors

	should start producing ILPs.

	

	Needs assessors meet with a student once, for around two hours, and

	may

	recommend mentoring for an hour or so per week, but given the high

	costs

	associated with mentoring (the average figure seems to be around £60

	per

	hour) I don't think it unreasonable that the mentor produce a couple

	of

	sides of A4 to explain what all of this money has been spent on,

	especially where this support is deemed necessary over three years.

	Three years of mental health mentoring at around £60 per hour will

	equate to around £5,400.

	

	I'm still amazed at the lack of clarity from us a sector as to what

	mental health mentoring actually consists of: some HEIs chiefly use

	peer

	mentors or study buddies, others use more experienced mentors who may

	have some form of professional m/h background, but I don't think a

	definitive explanation of what goes on in these sessions exists.

	Perhaps

	that's fine, as every student and their needs are different, but if

	that

	is true than surely it is not too onerous a task to ask for a learning

	

	plan outlining what goals, aims and objectives can be expected for the

	

	£60+ per hour that is being charged.

	

	I have asked our mental health co-ordinator, who line manages our

	mentors, to put this into place from the start of this term. From what

	I

	gather this is par for the course in FE already.

	

	Simon

	

	Amanda Kent wrote:

	> I agree with Marie - check the intention with the person in

	Darlington who

	> sent the student's DSA agreed recommendations letter out. Or just

	email

	> DSA_team and someone will answer.

	> I have a recent examples of mentoring agreed at 2 hours per week for

	one

	> student, one hour per week for another over a 34 week year. No ILP

	request

	> on either of them. However, I also have an example of a student with

	10

	> hours a week of note-taking support being asked for an ILP -  I

	understand

	> the disability adviser has reassured the student this is probably an

	'delete from

	> standard pro-forma' error.

	>

	> Amanda Kent

	> DSA needs assessor

	>

	>

	>

	> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:06:10 +0100, Marie Norris

	<Marie.Norris@CLEAR-

	> LINKS.CO.UK> wrote:

	>

	>  

	>> Hi Heather,

	>>

	>> It might be just worth checking whether the person who sent the

	letter

	>> actually meant to include that paragraph. We have had a few where

	the

	>> paragraph has been included in erorr for things such as notetaking

	and

	>> also study buddy. I think it was in the template and not removed

	because

	>> the staff are busy.

	>>

	>> Best wishes, Marie

	>>

	>> -----Original Message-----

	>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support

	staff.

	>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian F.

	>> Sent: 15 October 2009 17:01

	>> To: [log in to unmask]

	>> Subject: Re: ILP for Study Mentor

	>>

	>> That does seem like a large amount of support, but if it's clearly

	>> justified then SFE really should explain why they've turned it down

	or

	>> have placed barriers to the student receiving the support

	recommended

	>> for them. Obviously they're not just trying to use a "one checklist

	fits

	>>

	>> all" approach when processing DSA applications, as we all know from

	

	>> years of experience it's just not possible to do that! It would

	explain

	>> alot, though ...

	>>

	>> Ian Francis

	>>

	>>

	>>

	>>

	>> Heather Blundell wrote:

	>>    

	>>> Dear All

	>>>

	>>> We are increasingly receiving requests from SFE to provide and

	ILP's

	>>>      

	>> for study

	>>    

	>>> mentoring and study buddying.  A recent needs assessment has

	>>>      

	>> recommended

	>>    

	>>> 64 hours study buddying for 34 weeks.  Very detailed justification

	has

	>>>      

	>> been

	>>    

	>>> given for this. 

	>>>

	>>> SFE have agreed mentor hours - 10 hours initially (to be

	reviewed),

	>>> *If you feel that 10 hours will not be sufficient or if at a later

	>>>      

	>> date you feel

	>>    

	>>> you may go over these initially agreed hours then please have your

	>>>      

	>> tutor

	>>    

	>>> provide an ILP outlining the progress you have made, what

	strategies

	>>>      

	>> require

	>>    

	>>> clarification and how many hours you need in addition.

	>>>

	>>> My understanding was that if the needs assessor deemed in excess

	of 10

	>>>      

	>>> hours necessary and gave justification then SFE would accept this.

	Is

	>>>      

	>> my

	>>    

	>>> understanding inaccurate?

	>>>

	>>> In addition may I ask if there is a non SpLD ILP out there as I do

	not

	>>>      

	>> want to

	>>    

	>>> reinvent the wheel by creating a new one.  I would argue that

	study

	>>> mentoring is very different to 1-1 specialist SpLD provision and

	as

	>>>      

	>> such does

	>>    

	>>> an ILP capture this fully.

	>>>

	>>> Any suggestions greatly recieved.

	>>>

	>>> Thanks.

	>>> Heather

	>>>

	>>>      

	

	

	--

	Simon Jarvis

	Head of Disability & Dyslexia Service

	

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	Room FB 2.30, Francis Bancroft

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