nah, actually it doesn't remove anything actually. because there is
nothing there but a story. the story can be told differently.
On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Charles Burnette wrote:
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:23 AM, jeremy hunsinger wrote:
>>> When you manage to operationalize someone's intent without other
>>> narrative possibilities, I'll be interested to see it.
>>> So would I! Any Interpretation of an intent is a narrative! I
>>> can only give you a conceptual model of how I assume, based on
>>> knowledge of cognitive processes, an intent becomes operational
>>> in someone's mind. I can not situate the model in their mind,
>>> hence it is an interpretive stance that I take - one that helps me
>>> make sense of whatever information they present to me.
>> i don't deny the power of narrative here, but i don't think that
>> excluding the descriptive power of intent or intention will hurt
>> narratives of design. they might actually allow it much more
>> freedom in freeing it from the authorial and artistic narratives.
> Jeremy: Excluding intent from narratives of design disassociates
> them from the needs, desires, feelings and social understandings
> that motivate them. The catchy term "intentional fallacy" is a
> trope of literary criticism denying discussion of authorial
> intent in order to "objectively" interpret their products. Such
> "objective interpretation" allows the critic to substitute their own
> values and knowledge for that of the author. No wonder they like it!
> However, it is no less an intentional interpretation than the author
> might reveal if he/she chose to do so. Unfortunately, many just
> leave it to the critics! I believe intentions should be made clear
> in order to assist interpretation during human communication and
> designing. This sometimes doesn't serve the purposes (subrosa
> intentions) of the author, politician, artist, etc. This tends to
> problematic interpretations removed from the generative situation
> and the actors involved. Re your other comment: I can't imagine why
> you would not want knowledge of whether something was created by a
> man or machine. It would be key to how you interpret and understand