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Re: GEO-CURATORS Digest - 30 Jul 2009 to 31 Jul 2009 (#2009-59)

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Ellen de Kock <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi there,

I've been following the discussion with interest. I think I have come across 
one of these "lava medallions" while working at Museum Africa, Johannesburg. 
I was responsible for the geology collection and thought this item was 
rather weird.

Please keep me informed on the topic. It would be great to learn more, 
although I am not with Museum Africa anymore (now Council for Geoscience, 
Pretoria).

Best wishes,

Ellen de Kock
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> Topics of the day:
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>  1. stamped lava 'medallions' (3)
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> Date:    Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:34:05 +0100
> From:    Will Watts <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: stamped lava 'medallions'
>
> Hi All
>
> I remember there were a few of these at the Yorkshire Museum when I was =
> there a few years ago.  I had some discussion with Craig Barclay who was =
> Keeper of Numismatics at the time about putting something together to =
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Parkes, Matthew
> Sent: 30 July 2009 13:32
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> Subject: Re: stamped lava 'medallions'
>
> Jon,
> We have one of the coins embedded in lava from the 1820s, which I just =
> happened to come across yesterday by coincidence. I can send more =
> details if required.
>
> However, unless a clear expert emerges who has already written the =
> definitive history of these things, perhaps someone might consider =
> writing a paper or a note for the Geological Curator? It is clearly a =
> topic of some interest given the number and speed of replies to the =
> original email.
>
> Matthew Parkes
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jon Radley
> Sent: 30 July 2009 10:28
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: stamped lava 'medallions'
>
> Dear All,
>
> I've received an enquiry concerning souvenir 'medallions' stamped out of =
> freshly erupted lava. We have a couple of these in the Warwickshire =
> collection, from 19th century eruptions of Vesuvius. I'd be grateful for =
> information on any relevant research, collections, or articles.
>
> With thanks
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Radley
> Keeper of Geology
> Warwickshire Museum
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> Date:    Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:26:39 +0100
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> We have a couple in Plymouth, but also have seen quite a few in the
> southwest (Bristol, Truro, Exeter, Torquay etc...) as we trawled through
> stores for a small touring exhibition, with some making it into the
> display.
> Will have to have a look through the stores.....
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> Jon, how much info would the researcher want... is this something that
> could be a bit more specific & result in a mini-catalogue of UK
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> As most museums will only have a handful of such specimens it wouldn't
> be too major a task to take snaps of the items & send catalogue info to
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> Date:    Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:39:34 +0100
> From:    David Green <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: stamped lava 'medallions'
>
> Hello John,
>
> We have a drawer labelled "oddities" in the Manchester Museum petrology 
> col=
> lection which has four coins pressed into lava, five pressed lava 
> medallion=
> s and one lava plaque. They were recently used in an exhibition by Ilana 
> Ha=
> lperin who would well worth contacting as she has a particular interest in 
> =
> them... [log in to unmask]
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> The coins pressed into lava are all nineteenth century pieces from 
> Vesuvius=
> , they came from four different donors but there is little more 
> information=
> with them.
>
> The lava plaque, accession number M03910, is a simple design and appears 
> to=
> be from the Vesuvius eruption of 1837.
>
> There is a particularly nice lava medallion, M05094, from Vesuvius in 
> 1845;=
> two lava medallions (M08079 and M08080) from the Vesuvius eruption of 
> 1871=
> ; one from 1893 (M01913); one from the 1944 eruption (M05093). Most of us 
> s=
> eem to have a few medallions, it would be interesting to make a 
> photographi=
> c record and compare them... a worthwhile research project perhaps? =
>
>
> David
>
> Dr David Green
> Mineralogy Curator
> Manchester Museum
> 0161-275-2636
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Geological Curator's Group mailing list 
> [mailto:GEO-CURATORS@JISC=
> MAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Jon Radley
> Sent: 30 July 2009 10:28
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: stamped lava 'medallions'
>
> Dear All,
>
> I've received an enquiry concerning souvenir 'medallions' stamped out of =
>
> freshly erupted lava. We have a couple of these in the Warwickshire =
>
> collection, from 19th century eruptions of Vesuvius. I'd be grateful for =
>
> information on any relevant research, collections, or articles.
>
> With thanks
>
> Jon
>
> Jon Radley
> Keeper of Geology
> Warwickshire Museum
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of GEO-CURATORS Digest - 30 Jul 2009 to 31 Jul 2009 (#2009-59)
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