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Re: Sleep State

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Andrew Brookes <[log in to unmask]>

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Andrew Brookes <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:23:09 +1000

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I am not sure Maslow helps. I have put a reference below.

I am personally very wary of any argument that sleep deprivation has  
educational benefits. The effect on performance of physical and  
cognitive performance is comparable to drinking alcohol. I would be  
inclined to see sleep deprivation as more of a control technique than  
an educational method. (BTW - the effects are temporary - your  
intelligence returns after sleep - but the ONLY cure for sleep  
deprivation is sleep. Any strategy the doesn't involve sleep won't  
work).

There might be an argument for deliberate sleep deprivation. At least  
that would involve (a) recognising that an outdoor program used sleep  
deprivation (b) acknowledging the effects of sleep deprivation, and  
the risks. (The Mt Hood tragedy in the USA was one in which I have  
been told - but can't confirm - that one of the leaders was up much of  
the night grading assignments before the fateful trip).

Come to think of it is well after midnight and I am definitely in the  
sleep deficit zone - so I might just stop typing now ...

Andrew

(reference as promised:)

Belief when evidence does not support theory
Barlow Soper 1 *, Gary E. Milford 1, Gary T. Rosenthal 2
1Louisiana Tech University
2Nicholls State University
*Correspondence to Barlow Soper, Box 10048, T.S., Ruston, LA 71272


ABSTRACT
Marketing has looked to other scientific disciplines to supplement its  
understanding of motivation. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs theory is  
frequently uncritically cited in texts, even though most evidence has  
failed to support its validity. Science requires that theory be  
supported by empirical facts. Maslow's theory is briefly summarized,  
along with a review of the related literature. Reasons are given and  
empirically supported for the continued popularity of Maslow's theory  
in marketing despite lack of scientific support. A cautionary note for  
the continued development of marketing theory concludes the  
presentation. © 1995 John Wiley & Sons, Inc.






On 17/07/2009, at 11:27 PM, Pete Bunyan wrote:

> Rogers writing was a little simplistic I feel!  Surely it depends on  
> your learning outcomes.  If are requiring cognitive outcomes then we  
> might argue initially that the learner should be in a ‘good’  
> physiological and psychological state.  As these are developed we  
> might argue that skilful performance requires that these techniques  
> or processes be operational in more adverse conditions and therefore  
> create a learning environment where stressors such as sleep  
> deprivation, hunger and cold are present.  If we ascribe to Maslow’s  
> hierarchy of needs this is a very well argued concept.  Similarly if  
> our learning outcomes are in the affective domain for example  
> empathy we may directly use stressors such as hunger, lack of  
> shelter and sleep deprivation to mimic the conditions where other  
> less fortunate people live.  We seem to have moved away from the  
> third man debate!
>
>
>
> Dr Peter Bunyan LPIOL
> STA Tutor
> Adventure Education Subject Leader
> University of Chichester
> College Lane
> Chichester PO19 6PE
>
> 01243816317

Dr. Andrew Brookes  http://www.latrobe.edu.au/oent/Staff/brookes_andrew.htm
Associate Professor
Director - Research and Quality,
Centre for Excellence in Outdoor and Environmental Education
La Trobe University Bendigo                     Ph 61 3 54447559
PO Box 199                                      Fax 61 3 54447848
Bendigo, Victoria, 3552, AUSTRALIA              [log in to unmask]

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