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Re: POETRYETC Digest - 5 Jul 2009 to 6 Jul 2009 (#2009-186)

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Katherine Colombus <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Tue, 7 Jul 2009 07:23:36 +0000

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Hi there,
Could you please take me off this list?
Thanks,
Katie




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From: POETRYETC automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 0:00:10
Subject: POETRYETC Digest - 5 Jul 2009 to 6 Jul 2009 (#2009-186)

There are 9 messages totalling 366 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. 2 poems (3)
  2. kangaroo on my blog (4)
  3. Snap chronicular
  4. Coming up at Perth Poetry Club: HELEN HAGEMANN 11 July, MIKE WILLIAMS 18
     July

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Date:    Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:58:19 -0400
From:    Frederick Pollack <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: 2 poems

Distant Cousin


It=92s like talking to a dog, or a god.
Who calls when someone dies:
some great-aunt twice removed,
not thought of or named since childhood,
if then.  Or when somebody=92s kid
has kids or gets married again.
Each time I seek the right tone
to murmur in =96
condolence, congratulation =96
but it=92s no good:
the voice at the other end
can only hear emotion, and hears none;
or lives in truth and penetrates the lies
I=92ve lived since I moved.
So that talking to me must be
a bit like talking to a dog or god.
There are huge silences.  Bored,
I fill them with what
a person might say, and what I
might say back: =93You can=92t
expect to be interesting if you yourself take
no interest.=94  I dispute that.





Invasive Procedure


But why do your tentative questions touch
on politics and economics?
I was an artist: as such,
vaguely guilty about not being rich.
Living like any liberal
in a constant enervating anguish
(unlike the conservative=92s bracing pose)
of betrayal.  Awaiting disaster
(the ocean rising), despising those
who awaited the Rapture.
Now I hurt; you=92re hurting.  Resurrection
(if that=92s what you=92re after) differs
from simply waking up.  The latter,
however depressed, has some interest
in moving towards the light;
I only want the earth again.

I hope that not hundreds but thousands,
even tens of thousands of years
have passed.  I=92ll be a bacillus
or the strangest kind of luck
arising from the tomb: a Mummy=92s Curse!
My very lack of a claim
on you will be my claim, my unmutated
ineptitude as strong as my primitive language.
Which should answer your questions.
=20

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:33:27 +0800
From:    andrew burke <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: kangaroo on my blog

A fun couple of photos of a kangaroo gatecrashing a picnic yesterday in the
hills outside of Perth. Take a look, please.

-- 
Andrew
http://hispirits.blogspot.com/

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:21:50 +1000
From:    Martin Dolan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Snap chronicular

Hi Judy

Yes, sort of back. Blue ice piqued my professional interest, which these 
days is in transport safety (since 1 July anyway - wherein lies a story 
that's probably better back-channelled if you're interested). Ah, the 
mysteries of a bureaucratic career!

I'm doing OK, I think, after a dodgy period. Preparing for a holiday in 
Scotland, in fact, which I hope will lead to snaps and various other 
quasi-poetic effusions.

Regards

Martin

> Martin Dolan's back!  How could we know that blue ice would bring you back?
> Any snaps?  How are you doing?
>
> This week we tried to attract blue ice to our old car in Loughborough for
> insurance claim purposes but only managed to encounter in a high street car
> park an enraged yelling Huge Male Person who'd just found a 25 GBP
> penalty-for-overtime ticket affixed to his windscreen.  We hurried away,
> pretending [like regular British people] not to notice his screaming and
> crashing things; however, 'twas hard to forget the image.  But I'm confident
> that next week's narrowboat canal trip northwards oughter erase that vision
> of a modern-day raging Henry VIII, who is my current Historic Figure of
> Awesome Fascination [best portrayal seen so far:  East End boxer-actor Ray
> Winstone in 2003 *Henry VIII* film writ by Peter Morgan, directed by Pete
> Travis, w Helen Bonham Carter as Anne Boleyn; and the most ably researched,
> fascinatingly written book about him:  Carolly Erickson's *Great Harry*
> historical biography].
>
> Best,
>
> Judy
>
> 2009/7/4 Martin Dolan <[log in to unmask]>
>
>  
>> Yep. They call it 'blue ice'. Rare occurrences, but real.
>>
>> Martin D

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:06:53 +0800
From:    Janet Jackson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Coming up at Perth Poetry Club: HELEN HAGEMANN 11 July, MIKE WILLIAMS 18 July

*COMING UP AT PERTH POETRY CLUB:*
***11 JULY: Helen Hagemann*
On 11 July, in our funky, *heated* room, we present HELEN HAGEMANN, fresh
from touring with the New Poets Programme, her collection *Evangelyne &
Other Poems* having been a winner in* *the Australian Poetry Centre's
prestigious first-volume publishing competition.
*18 JULY: Mike Williams**
**Mike Williams writes both fiction and poetry and his two novels, *Old Jazz
* and *The Music of Dunes*, are published by Fremantle Press. His short
fiction and poetry have appeared in various Australian journals and he lives
in North Perth with his partner (also a writer), his two musician stepsons,
an ageing spaniel and an idle cat. For a proper job, he works in a Perth
bookshop.*
25 JULY: Mar Bucknell + Sue Clennell. MC Mark Hutchins.
1 AUG: P L Jones + Mark Lloyd
Plus open stage. MC Janet Jackson (Helen Child is away). EVERY SATURDAY
2-4pm in the Red Bar at The Court hotel & restaurant, 50 Beaufort Street,
Perth. Free entry. More info at www.perthpoetryclub.com. Enquiries:
[log in to unmask] or Janet 0406 624 578

-- 
Janet Jackson: Words with attitude & soul
Poems Performances Workshops Courses
Creative, technical and corporate writing
Editing

[log in to unmask]
www.proximitypoetry.com (Poetry)
www.myspace.com/poetjj (Includes occasional arts & culture blog)

Perth Poetry Club: www.perthpoetryclub.com

The Line Mine, bulletin board for Perth poetry & spoken word:
[log in to unmask]
groups.yahoo.com/group/thelinemine

Breastfeeding info & help: www.breastfeeding.asn.au

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:37:05 -0600
From:    Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 2 poems

Liked them both, Fred, but especially 'Invasive Procedure' with its =20
hopeless hope (I guess youd call it).

I would cary that 'unmutated / ineptitude'  forward too, I suspect. =20
There we are, we 'artists'

vaguely guilty about not being rich.
Living like any liberal
in a constant enervating anguish
(unlike the conservative=92s bracing pose)
of betrayal

I believe....

Doug

Douglas Barbour
[log in to unmask]

http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/

Latest books:
Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=3D41&bookID=3D664
Wednesdays'
=
http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10=
.html

What in the world we see
is what's important.

        Richard Caddel

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:40:34 -0600
From:    Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: kangaroo on my blog

Ah, quite a lot there, including your latest round of CW lessons, eh,  
Andrew.  Nice that it was the right size to feed....

Doug
On 5-Jul-09, at 11:33 PM, andrew burke wrote:

> A fun couple of photos of a kangaroo gatecrashing a picnic yesterday  
> in the
> hills outside of Perth. Take a look, please.
>
> -- 
> Andrew
> http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
>

Douglas Barbour
[log in to unmask]

http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/

Latest books:
Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
Wednesdays'
http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html

What in the world we see
is what's important.

        Richard Caddel

------------------------------

Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:21:24 +0100
From:    Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: kangaroo on my blog

Andrew was not sure which was the kangaroo and whish was Glen's wife?
Cheers P
Ps alas you did not post the oem by said kangaroo 
Cheers Patrick just been spring cleaning my computer wires and wires - wires
entangled strangled !!

-----Original Message-----
From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of andrew burke
Sent: 06 July 2009 06:33
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: kangaroo on my blog

A fun couple of photos of a kangaroo gatecrashing a picnic yesterday in the
hills outside of Perth. Take a look, please.

-- 
Andrew
http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: 07/04/09
17:55:00

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Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:55:38 -0700
From:    Stephen Vincent <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: kangaroo on my blog

Now, Andrew, I understand the "oo" in Kangaroo! 
Thanks,
Stephen V
http://stephenvincent.net/blog/
Now featuring "the intimacies of trees"
Yes, very erotic! I think!

--- On Sun, 7/5/09, andrew burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: andrew burke <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: kangaroo on my blog
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 10:33 PM

A fun couple of photos of a kangaroo gatecrashing a picnic yesterday in the
hills outside of Perth. Take a look, please.

-- 
Andrew
http://hispirits.blogspot.com/

------------------------------

Date:    Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:27:50 -0400
From:    Frederick Pollack <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 2 poems

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Douglas Barbour" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: 2 poems


Liked them both, Fred, but especially 'Invasive Procedure' with its
hopeless hope (I guess youd call it).

I would cary that 'unmutated / ineptitude'  forward too, I suspect.
There we are, we 'artists'

vaguely guilty about not being rich.
Living like any liberal
in a constant enervating anguish
(unlike the conservative=92s bracing pose)
of betrayal

I believe....

Doug


Thanks, Doug!!  Hopeless hope, yes, exactly --- It was Shelley in=20
"Prometheus Unbound" who assigned me years ago my theme and tone: "...to=20
hope till hope creates / From its own wreck the thing it contemplates."=20

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