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Re: Australian ERA Metrics

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Jane Jacobs <[log in to unmask]>

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Jane Jacobs <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:44:36 +0100

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Dear Colleagues, what a  sorry list that this is, and how sad the  
presses upon disciplines and the academy.

   I cannot agree more with Allen's point which raises the issue that  
certain 'regionally' specified journals are lowly ranked or off this  
list altogether. One such omission as far as I can see is the  
Singapore Journal of Tropical Geography. What annoys me most about  
such an omission is this: it is not just that SJTG is an excellent  
journal and should be listed highly, the Australian academy is always  
banging on about its close relations (what? market relations?) to Asia!

We need an archaeology of this list which has irrationalities  
comparable to that of Borges. Does anyone know how this list was  
made?  Lists like this do not simply appear from a bureaucracy, they  
must shaped by advice from somewhere in the Australian geography  
discipline. Perhaps someone who helped shape this list could give a  
rational account of it.

Jane Jacobs

On 30 Jul 2009, at 08:52, Allen Scott wrote:

> I am to say the least horrified by this list, not only on account  
> of its
> utterly cranky rankings, but more importantly the bureaucratic  
> stupidity
> that underlies this sort of effort. Presumably, if the ranking  
> comes into
> effect, a great paper published in the Scottish Geographical  
> Journal will
> have no value compared to some crappy piece in the Annals of the
> Association of American Geographers. What kind of Kafkaesque  
> nightmare is
> this? Can't people read? Allen Scott.
>
>
>
>
>
>  that > In the context of continuing debates in the UK on the RAE/ 
> REF (and
>> following from the excellent article by Richards et. al recently
>> published in Area), list members might be interested in the metrics
>> system currently under review in the Australian context. The  
>> 'Excellence
>> in Research for Australia' (ERA) initiative will use a combination of
>> metrics and 'expert review'. One of these indicators is a
>> discipline-specific tiered journal ranking system. Whilst the 'Human
>> Geography' list is yet to be finalised, the provisional list is below
>> with journals ranked from C to A*.
>>
>>
>>
>> Clearly some significant implications for research and dissemination
>> practice...
>>
>>
>>
>> A* Annals of the Association of American Geographers 0004-5608
>>
>> A* Body and Society
>>
>> A* Economic Geography 0013-0095
>>
>> A* Environment and Planning A 0308-518X
>>
>> A* Environment and Planning B-Planning & Design 0265-8135
>>
>> A* Environment and Planning C
>>
>> A* Environment and Planning D-Society & Space 0263-7758
>>
>> A* International Journal of Urban and Regional Research 0309-1317
>>
>> A* Journal of Rural Studies 0743-0167
>>
>> A* Progress in Human Geography 0309-1325
>>
>> A* Transactions of the Institute of British Geographers 0020-2754
>>
>> A Applied Geography 0143-6228
>>
>> A Area 0004-0894
>>
>> A Australian Geographer 0004-9182
>>
>> A Canadian Geographer-Geographe Canadien 0008-3658
>>
>> A Cities 0264-2751
>>
>> A Community Development Journal 0010-3802
>>
>> A Environment and Behavior 0013-9165
>>
>> A European Urban and Regional Studies 0969-7764
>>
>> A Geoforum 0016-7185
>>
>> A Geographical Research 1745-5863
>>
>> A Journal of Urban Affairs 0735-2166
>>
>> A Political Geography 0962-6298
>>
>> A Professional Geographer 0033-0124
>>
>> A Regional Studies 0034-3404#
>>
>> A Theory Culture & Society 0263-2764
>>
>> A Urban Affairs Review 1078-0874
>>
>> A Urban Studies 0042-0980
>>
>> B Antipode 0066-4812
>>
>> B Australasian Journal of Regional Studies
>>
>> B Cultural Geographies 1474-4740
>>
>> B Gender Place and Culture 0966-369X
>>
>> B Geografiska Annaler Series B-Human Geography 0435-3684
>>
>> B Geographical Analysis 0016-7363
>>
>> B Geographical Journal 0016-7398
>>
>> B Geography 0016-7487
>>
>> B Geojournal
>>
>> B New Zealand Geographer 0028-8144
>>
>> B Papers in Regional Science 1056-8190
>>
>> B Social & Cultural Geography 1464-9365
>>
>> C Boletin de la Asociacion de Geografos Espanoles 0212-9426
>>
>> C Children and Society 0951-0605
>>
>> C Children Youth and Environments
>>
>> C Children's Geographies
>>
>> C Education and Urban Society 0013-1245
>>
>> C Eurasian Geography and Economics 1538-7216
>>
>> C EURE-Revista Latinoamericana de Estudios Urbano Regionales  
>> 0250-7161
>>
>> C Geographical Review 0016-7428
>>
>> C Geographische Zeitschrift 0016-7479
>>
>> C Habitat International 0197-3975
>>
>> C Journal of Geography 0022-1341
>>
>> C Journal of Urban Analysis 0091-1909
>>
>> C Journal of Urban Technology 1063-0732
>>
>> C Mitteilungen der Osterreichischen Geographischen Gesellschaft
>>
>> C Mobilities 1745-0101
>>
>> C Post-Soviet Geography and Economics 1088-9388
>>
>> C Scottish Geographical Journal 0036-9225
>>
>> C Scripta Nova-Revista Electronica de Geografia y Ciencias Sociales
>>
>> C South Australian Geographical Journal 1030-0481
>>
>> C Urban Geography 0272-3638
>>
>> C Urban Interest 0192-4974
>>
>> C Urban League Review 0147-1740
>>
>> C Urban Life 0098-3039
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________
>>
>> Dr. David Bissell
>>
>> School of Social Sciences | Research School of Social Sciences
>>
>> The Australian National University
>>
>> ACT 0200, Australia
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel +61 2 6125 4209
>>
>> Email [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> Web www.davidbissell.com <http://www.davidbissell.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Professor Jane M Jacobs
Chair in Cultural Geography
Institute of Geography
School of GeoSciences
University of Edinburgh
Drummond Street
Edinburgh  EH8 9XP
+44 (0)131 650 2515

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