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Re: snap: noisy cymbalizm

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kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:17:36 +0300

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I understood only a part of what you were trying to say, since your typos
are pretty rampant and your sound system example was completely incoherent.
'incoherent' is in fact a succinct way of characterising the impression I
have of you. so sure, cool: hard feelings. :) ignore me & I'll ignore you,
that's one way to go about it I think. or whatever you'd like to do. have a
great time Angel (is that name male or female, I wonder). burp.

KS

2009/6/27 Angel Marquez <[log in to unmask]>

> hey kasper,uhm, to tell you the truth, I'm kind of over it. this will be my
> final transmission and feel free to have the last word if that is wht you
> need.
>
> >>it isn't a matter of 'knowing' [that x is crap]. it's my own opinion
> from the beginning.  how you interpret that is your own affair.
> oh, cool. got it. it's up to me, I get this.
>
> >>I mean no ill will. sorry to have come off as a 'prebubescent'. I
> don't appreciate being called that (since my 'rant' i.e. interpretation was
> not at all insincere), but maybe it makes you feel better?
> i'm pretty abstract when it comes to feelings and posting something to
> gather feedback from an unknown crowd. abstract meaning you're just a blob
> that offers responses, I'm pretty good at not getting to emotionally
> attached to anything someone else could attempt to ruin, carelessly.
>
> >> I would appreciate it if you DID take the trouble to digest my point of
> view, since I took the trouble to write it.
> Well, okay. burp. I did not care for it. It lacked substance in my opinion
> with nothing to compare it too. Example. A friend of mine once told me how
> this guy he worked with boasted about his sound system in his car and was
> total the music man. Anyhow, he gave my friend a ride home and my bro told
> me he blasted def leppard pour some sugar on me. See, how am I to know I;m
> not wasting my time digesting something that hasn't earned a valuable
> opinion. Credibility, experience..etc.. which brings us back to being
> naive,
> wet behind the ears, prepube...I was a young wild gun once. I've gone
> through many phases, even where I would explore things that I wasn't
> naturally attracted too, I like a lot of stuff now that I would have lashed
> out like you did.
>
> >>let's leave all negativisms at the door;
> Why now and not then? How do you come to these rules you are enforcing on
> me? Do what you want man and I will respond accordingly.
>
> >>"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it
> comes out."I never asked why; but, if you feel the need to explain...get it
> all out tigre.
>
> >>this was of course only a citation, and doesn't reflect my personality.
> but you get the gist, I think. no hard feelings?
> it wasn't that big of a deal. i knew when i wrote that other lame thing you
> would go for it because it was the canned prose I know the mass likes.
> That's not me though, I write trite pop lyrics, thanks for noticing.
>
> hard feelings. i'll feel however you want me to feel about it, how's that?
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > hm.
> > it isn't a matter of 'knowing' [that x is crap]. it's my own opinion from
> > the beginning.  how you interpret that is your own affair.
> >
> > I mean no ill will. sorry to have come off as a 'prebubescent'. I don't
> > appreciate being called that (since my 'rant' i.e. interpretation was not
> > at
> > all insincere), but maybe it makes you feel better? I would appreciate it
> > if
> > you DID take the trouble to digest my point of view, since I took the
> > trouble to write it.
> > let's leave all negativisms at the door; if anything, let it be called
> > critique from now on (when applied to poetry!). shall we?
> > "I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it
> > comes out."
> >
> > this was of course only a citation, and doesn't reflect my personality.
> but
> > you get the gist, I think. no hard feelings?
> >
> > KS
> >
> > 2009/6/26 Angel <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > > It really doesn't matter what you decide to do.
> > >
> > > Your apologies and rambling really are just what you emit.
> > >
> > > My only concern was how do you know it's crap? If it's just because you
> > > don't like it and your making your personal prefernce the standard
> fine.
> > I
> > > have no point of reference, your just another angry voice in the cyber
> > pond.
> > >
> > > Whatever dude. I hope you feel better when you judge ; but, as far as
> me
> > > digesting your prepubescent rant... It's not going to happen bro. You
> > didn't
> > > meet my acceptance test , as I did not meet yours. We are even.
> > >
> > > Yes, you are not the first to accuse me of being sensitive. I like who
> I
> > am
> > > though...
> > >
> > > Is their anything I can do to make this right for both of us?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 26, 2009, at 4:07 AM, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > wow, way to take a compliment. are you always this sensitive? or maybe
> > I'm
> > >> reading too much into your reply. probably not.
> > >> I wanted also to apologise for the cold welcome I gave you on your
> snap.
> > >> possibly personal frustrations surfacing in the form of an
> uncalled-for
> > >> jeer. I extend the laurel wreath. (is that what you're supposed to
> > extend
> > >> as
> > >> a sign of amicability? I forget..) I speak my mind; when I think
> > something
> > >> is crap, I'll say it, if I like something I'll say that too. I've
> almost
> > >> forgotten how to be constructive, it's been years since I was really
> > into
> > >> the critique thing. I can try if you like, or shut the fuck up, if you
> > >> like.
> > >> either suits me.
> > >>
> > >> KS
> > >>
> > >> 2009/6/26 Angel Marquez <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>
> > >> I haven't even gotten to the part where the young girl that observes
> > this
> > >>> young mans epiphany from her bedroom window just realized something
> > >>> unusual
> > >>> while she was playing with her doll house and wanted everyone to get
> > >>> along
> > >>> nudging her to look out the window. I think it might have something
> to
> > do
> > >>> with the sun faded pattern on the material not only her curtains she
> > has
> > >>> pulled aside are made of but her dollies she is playing with as she
> > >>> notices
> > >>> our cheap laborer as well. Think she should have a brother that is a
> > >>> little
> > >>> patronizing, pretentious, wannabe middle brow b*tch?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
>

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