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Re: Launch of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery's Pre-Rapahelite website

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Jon Pratty <[log in to unmask]>

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Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:30:02 +0100

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Just to clarify, following Joe's email

Silverlight *isn't* an IE-only tool - it works fine with Firefox.

This is a non-Microsoft office/house/kitchen - even the cats are using
Chrome on their PDA's. I'm on Firefox 3.0.11 and the Brum zoomy pics I can
see are  silky and scalable.

JP



-----Original Message-----
From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Joseph Padfield
Sent: 26 June 2009 12:42
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Launch of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery's Pre-Rapahelite
website


Hi,

I have had a brief look at the site and it looks very good, but I have
not had a chance to examine it further.

I just wanted to post a comment about the silverlight zooming issue.  I
have seen it working on a windows machine and it looks good, but lack of
support for other browsers is a shame.

For web technology people, (not general users) Firefox use is about 47%
(and climbing)
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Wikipedia (much more general user: has lower Firefox use ~22.51%, but
still very significant (IE only 65.5%)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

Would it be possible to have an alternative zooming system presented for
non Internet Explorer browsers ?

Also, just for fun, I thought I would mention that there is (and there
are probably several others :-) a cross platform, open source,
alternative zooming system , called IIPImage,
http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/

I am currently using it for several research projects.  One example
javascript viewer, (though it is not yet using the newest version of the
viewer, so not as smooth), can be found:
http://cima.ng-london.org.uk/collection This is a simple proof of
concept page but it works as a good example.

Joe


Cristiano Bianchi | Keepthinking wrote:
> Michael,
>
> my 8-year old Alfa Romeo takes me everywhere I like (and quite
> comfortably at that), but if I wanted to compete at Silverstone I'd
> need a different car. And I know it.
>
> I agree that Silverlight is an odd choice - for a simple zoom facility
> - but hey, they may have something else in store, for which Flash is
> not appropriate. We do not know. Yet. They have made a decision and
> will know its pros and cons.
>
> What we do know is that on an average site the number of people coming
> with Ubuntu (or any other Linux) are, say, 0.0001% of the total. They
> made a conscious decision of using a niche OS - which has limited
> multimedia capabilities and a very restricted choice of plugins. So
> the idea is that the remaining 99.9999% of user should never try
> something else because of the choice of a very small group?
>
> Moreover, the site is 99.9% accessible to everyone - if you want the
> extra funky bits you have to download something extra. And at doing
> that - the continuous zoom - I have seen no better tool than
> Silverlight - it's smooth, fast and efficient. I have seen no
> comparable Flash example at doing the same. Zoomify or Aleo don't come
> even remotely close. I would like to be corrected as we are looking
> for an alternative :-)
>
> Best, Cristiano
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26 Jun 2009, at 11:18, Michael Comiskey wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I just tried the preraphaelites.org website with an Asus Eee 900 with
>> eeebuntu 3.0 (a tweak of Ubuntu Linux 9.04) using Firefox 3.0.11.
>>
>> It works just the same as Firefox on Windows XP SP3 and Firefox 3.0
>> until one tries to use the zooming viewer.
>>
>> The viewer page does not work , but instead presents a "Get Microsoft
>> Silverlight" button, which upon being selected, sends one to the
>> Microsoft Silverlight website.
>>
>> This then gives a "Microsoft Silverlight may not be supported on your
>> computer's hardware or operating system" message, which is nice.
>>
>> Thus I would give the site full marks for presenting what is a
>> marvellous collection, but take a bit off for not using a cross platform
>> technology for the zooming viewer.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>> Behalf Of Jenny Walklate
>>> Sent: 26 June 2009 09:25
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Launch of Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery's
>>> Pre-Rapahelite website
>>>
>>> Yes, I wondered about silverlight too - is there anything
>>> with Linux/ Firefox compatibility?
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
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