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Subject:

BL Newspapers and open content

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Alastair Dunning <[log in to unmask]>

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Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:22:03 +0100

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Good points. 

The issue of freeing up the OCRd text has been discussed at the project
board meeting for the BL newspapers project, both in the context of the
Richard's comments about opening up data and also in the terms of
accessibility

However, for this project it is has been a case of walking before
running. Digitising 2m pages of often fragile historic newspapers is a
big task, from ironing the copies prior to microfilming, through OCRing,
DTD development, quality checking and then deploying via a relatively
new type of business model for digital content. Note that the text of
the newspapers is also 'dirty' OCR, which would also need some kind of
mechanism for cleaning it up to make it more useful.

However, all these organisational issues are not to say that this kind
of approach should not be progressed. In principle, I don't think the BL
or Cengage has anything against the concept of making the OCR'd text
available. JISC would welcome it.

If this is a general feeling amongst the MCG that this open data is a
key part of making such content accessible, I'm happy to take these
comments back to the BL's project board for newspapers. And as paying
customers (another interesting issue) it's the kind of thing you might
want to let the BL know about directly.

Alastair

Alastair Dunning
JISC Digitisation Programme Manager
t: 0203 006 6065

JISC Office (1st Floor)
Brettenham House (South Entrance)
5 Lancaster Place
London WC2E 7EN

http://digitisation.jiscinvolve.org/
http://www.jisc.ac.uk/digitisation/



-----Original Message-----
From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Richard Light
Sent: 18 June 2009 11:15
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Digital Britain - Final Report

In message 
<[log in to unmask]>, 
Nick Poole <[log in to unmask]> writes

>3. Tim Berners-Lee's appointment as 'linked data czar' is interesting -

>the mission to liberate publicly-funded data is something of a cause 
>celebre in Whitehall and it seems likely to continue in spite of Tom 
>Watson's recent - ahem - retirement. I would suggest that we bring our 
>much-vaunted 'goldmine of content' to this party and use the 
>opportunity to have a serious conversation about opening up cultural 
>data in the broadest possible sense (which might include your semantic 
>tech Richard!).

Digital Britain makes much of "the importance of news and local 
journalism for democracy" (57-66).  In that context, it is interesting 
to go to the newly-announced British Library site British Newspapers 
1800-1900 [1] and see how liberated the publicly-funded data relating to

this primary historical source material is feeling.

The site itself is fine, and works well.  Starting as ever with a search

for Burgess Hill, I have entertained myself finding stories about the 
Brighton Railway Murder ("the Hat Difficulty") and the Weidhaas Hygienic

Institute's natural asthma cure ("Dum Spiro Spero" - wonderful).  Then I

started to wonder about the digitised text that is clearly there, in the

background, driving the search facilities that bring us the scanned page

images.  Might that publicly-funded data be available?  From the FAQ 
[2], the answer is apparently "no":

-----------------------
Is it possible to see the raw text of the article in HTML [sic], as 
captured by the Optical Character Recognition (OCR) system?

     The British Library and Gale do not currently make this text 
available -- the text files are used solely for searching the product 
and the user is only able to view the digital image of the page.
-----------------------

As a community, are we happy with this state of affairs?

A source I am increasingly turning to for "raw text", in the absence of 
alternatives, is Project Gutenberg:

http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page

This community initiative allows the full text of out-of-copyright works

to be downloaded and used as one wishes.  It is just plain text, so you 
need to get in there and add some markup, but I have for example been 
able to convert Cousin's Biographical Dictionary of English Literature 
into a database of 1700 biographical records, containing useful 
structured information such as names, birth and death dates, and titles 
of works.  I am currently considering how to expose this as a Linked 
Data resource, ideally using the CIDOC CRM as a base ontology.

So long as we have a model where information is published only as web 
pages (especially when those pages contain only images), there is no 
scope for this sort of data enhancement.

Richard

[1] http://newspapers.bl.uk/blcs/
[2] http://newspapers.bl.uk/blcs/page.do?page=/researchguide.jspx#sect2
-- 
Richard Light

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