I thought that the point being made, in as light-hearted a way as possible, was that there are some complaints which should not be taken seriously - sometimes, it is the person claiming offence who has the problem, not the person giving the so-called offence.
Look at it in a slightly different light: if the staff person concerned were a religious zealot claiming offence at having to serve openly gay students, or someone claiming offence at dealing with students dressed in those extreme robes worn by some Muslim women - would you be considering a code of behaviour for students covering that? I hope not! I trust that the staff person would be told very firmly to revise their views. And I think the same applies to this matter of 'appropriate dress'. If it's legal, live with it.
Alan
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>and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>Singleton, David
>Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:02 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Student Dress Code
>
>Just caught up with this thread and am surprised at the tone
>of some of the responses (perhaps it's the heat). The
>original query was that if a member of library staff was
>offended by what they considered inappropriate dress of
>students should, or could anything be done about it. Surely
>library managers have a duty to consider the feelings of their
>own staff as well as those of their users. To require a
>formal dress code is not appropriate but I see no reason why
>students or anyone else might not have it brought to their
>attention that their dress or behaviour is causing concern.
>
>In holiday resorts it is not unusual to see notices in bars
>and restaurants requesting customers not to wear beachwear in
>their establishments so why shouldn't libraries be able to
>'draw a line'.
>
>In these days of equality and diversity it's all about respect
>and that means everyone being prepared to have respect for
>everyone else.
>
>
>
>David Singleton
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>Sandra Morris [ssm]
>Sent: 03 June 2009 10:54
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Student Dress Code
>
>'Inappropriate' is, of course, very subjective and views
>change over the years. I think a member of staff who sits on a
>front desk and wears v low-cut tops is inappropriately
>dressed. I think most of the female pop videos are bordering
>on semi-porn.
>But I'm a female older person so.......
>
>Thanks
>Sandra
>
>Sandra Morris
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>and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>Stephenson K.D.
>Sent: 02 June 2009 16:01
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>Subject: Re: Student Dress Code
>
>Hi,
>
>I hate to say it, but maybe this member of staff should
>consider if they want to work with young people. I'm always
>fascinated, envious and amused by the outfits sported by our
>students. I've never been offended by dress.
>
>Kate
>
>
>Kate Stephenson BA PgLis
>Information Manager
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>-----Original Message-----
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>and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>Hannah Spring
>Sent: 02 June 2009 15:45
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: FW: Student Dress Code
>
>I'm in total agreement - spagetti shoulder straps and shorts
>rule in temperature of 26 degrees! Students will be students
>and in hot weather expect to see lots of exposed midriffs and
>navel decoration. Hardly shocking is it?
>
>Surely our profession has more important things to be doing.
>Let's get back to work shall we?
>
>Hannah
>
>Hannah Spring
>Senior Lecturer - Research and Evidence Based Practice Support
>Clinical Librarian - AHP Project
>Faculty of Health and Life Sciences
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>________________________________
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>From: A general Library and Information Science list for news
>and discussion. on behalf of Frances Hendrix
>Sent: Tue 02/06/2009 15:33
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Student Dress Code
>
>
>
>Good heavens this isn't territory for a librarian surely?
>Its hot
>people dress for comfort, the weather and to attract the same
>or opposite
>sex
>As long as no law is broken leave well alone
>
>I sit in court. All court related staff have a dress code
>(fairly free now,
>no hats needed etc), but we cannot and do not extend this to
>our defendants!
>f
>Frances Hendrix
>Martin House Farm, Hilltop Lane, Whittle le Woods, Chorley,
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>UK
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>From: "Moore, Craig" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:19 PM
>Subject: Re: Student Dress Code
>
>
>I am not normally given to libertarian instincts but I am wondering if
>it is our proper place to worry about this. The issue that springs to
>mind is should a librarian in a (presumably) FE college context have a
>dress code policy. If such a thing is found to be desirable then surely
>the college as a whole should have one? If the library has a separate
>dress code from the host institution would you be able to enforce it
>without the backing of your host institution?
>
>
>Craig Alexander Moore
>Digital Archivist
>The National Archives
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>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: 02 June 2009 15:07
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>Subject: Re: Student Dress Code
>
>My mind is boggling as to what might be offensive. Surely it's more
>important that students are comfortable than insisting on a dress code?
>So as long as it's not something that breaks the law, why object?
>
>Charles
>
>
>Professor Charles Oppenheim
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>Department of Information Science
>Loughborough University
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and
>discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Corrie
>Sent: 02 June 2009 15:02
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Student Dress Code
>
>Hi All
>
>Does anyone have a dress code for students that they could share with
>me? With the hot weather a number of staff have felt that a lot of the
>students are inappropriately dressed. On a number of occasions this has
>been offensive to the member of staff.
>
>Any support would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>Paul
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