James,
I accept that getting people to understand tags may be quite hard but it
seems to me that we have to start somewhere and this kind of large-scale
event, where you have lots of different things going on right across the
country, is an ideal option. In that sense it is not like a
single-venue event because the possibility for wider aggregation of
stuff is much greater.
Yes, the results this time might not be consistent or accurate, but it
would be a significant, and relatively high profile, step in the right
direction.
As things stand at the moment, even those of us that are in the know
about tagging can't easily tag these events in a consistent way because
there is no advertised tag as far as I can tell.
Also, the current growing mainstream media interest in Twitter is
potentially quite timely. At the very least, it wouldn't do any harm to
casually mention use of Twitter in the information about the events?
Andy
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From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
James Morley
Sent: 15 May 2009 13:16
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Subject: Re: Asking the public to contribute on Flickr - what works?
We have found tagging to be very hard to get people to do consistently
and accurately. Looking at your event I'd say the group should be
enough in terms of knowing that the content is related to the event.
One thing that I'd say is crucial though is to get your Ts & Cs in as
Group Rules in the Flickr group rather than just on your page, and force
people to accept them when they join the group (all easily done via the
group admin). Otherwise you'll get people joining and not knowing what
they are signing up to. Otherwise I would say (not being a lawyer, but
having talked to some about this very issue!) you will be ill advised to
use those pictures anywhere off Flickr, including I assume your "online
exhibition on Culture24". I know there's Creative Commons and all that,
but that's a whole other conversation.
Make sure you also put all your instruction in the group description
too. And link back to your pages such as
http://www.culture24.org.uk/places+to+go/museums+at+night+2009/art67355
Back to tags, I see you do say "All photographs need to be tagged with
the venue, date and category.". I would be more blatant with what tags
you need to define the categories (I assume "nightsacpe", "action",
"objects") so that when you are making your "selection of photographs
from each category" you can just filter by those tags.
Most of the above is based on my experience setting up our Henry Moore
showcase - see the legacy at
http://www.kew.org/henry-moore/create/photoshowcase.shtml &
http://www.flickr.com/groups/mooreatkew/ (and
http://www.flickr.com/groups/mooreatkew/rules/)
Hope that helps. Do get back to me if you have any specifics.
Regards, James
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
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> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:41 PM
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> Subject: Re: Asking the public to contribute on Flickr - what works?
>
> Hi Jane,
> I think it would be sensible to advertise a tag as well as
> the Flickr group. E.g. on your current Web page you could
> say something like:
>
> To submit a photo please upload it to the Flickr group and
> tag it with "museumsatnight09".
>
> Then at the end, change the wording to:
>
> All photographs need to be tagged with "museumsatnight09",
> the venue, date and category. Please tag any other material
> about Museums at Night events (e.g. blog posts, videos and
> tweets) in the same way.
>
> Doing so means that submitted photos can be more easily
> aggregated with other material about the events. I didn't
> see any explicit reference to a tag on the page - apologies
> if I missed it.
>
> Andy
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> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Jane Finnis
> Sent: 12 May 2009 11:53
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> Subject: Re: Asking the public to contribute on Flickr - what works?
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> We are running as part of Museums at Night a Flickr project
> to create an archive of photographs about the 150 events that
> are due to take place this weekend all across the UK.
>
> Basically, we are inviting anyone - the public or the venues
> themselves
> - to help us create an archive of photographs of all the
> great stuff that is happening. We will then select the best
> of which will go into an online exhibition on Culture24. To
> help us select the ones to exhibit we are getting help from
> curators at Photoworks and the V&A. 1,000's of rather nice
> shiny A5 cards have been printed and sent to all the
> participating venues to hand out and we are getting some
> conversations going in some Flickr forums.
>
> You can read about it here: www.culture24.org.uk/museumsatnight
>
> I would be happy to share the results of how it all goes with
> anyone who is interested and will be sharing a summary of the
> evaluation on my blog at the end of May.
>
> Cheers Jane
>
> Jane Finnis
> Director, Culture24
>
>
>
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> Ridge Mia
> Sent: 08 May 2009 16:40
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Asking the public to contribute on Flickr - what works?
>
> Hi all,
>
> I know quite a few museums have experimented with this, and I wondered
> if anyone could share any lessons you've learnt about the best ways to
> go about it - how to explain your project to the public, where to ask
> for contributions, what to do with people who want to contribute but
> aren't on Flickr. I'm sure there must be other things I've missed but
> hopefully you get the idea.
>
> I can explain a bit more about the project we're thinking of if that
> would help, but in the meantime - any thoughts?
>
> cheers, Mia
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