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Fwd: Re: Plato on Inequality

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Gareth WILLIAMS <[log in to unmask]>

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>> Gareth WILLIAMS 12/05/2009 16:07 >>>
As A.N Whitehead put it: 'The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato'.

Keep those footnotes coming you HEN correspondents: idealism and realism both welcome.

By the way, there is an interesting new biography of Engels just published by the British historian Tristram Hunt.

Best wishes,

Gareth

Alfred North Whitehead, Process and Reality, p. 39 [Free Press, 1979]

Professor Gareth Williams
School of Social Sciences
Cardiff University
Glamorgan Building
King Edward VII Avenue
Cardiff CF10 3WT
Wales, UK

Tel:  +44(0)29 2087 5500
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New from The Policy Press:

COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLBEING

Edited by Steve Cropper, Alison Porter, Gareth Williams, Sandra
Carlisle, Robert Moore, Martin O'Neill, Chris Roberts and Helen Snooks

For further details visit http://www.policypress.org.uk 


Professor Gareth Williams
School of Social Sciences
Cardiff University
Glamorgan Building
King Edward VII Avenue
Cardiff CF10 3WT
Wales, UK

Tel:  +44(0)29 2087 5500
Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4175



New from The Policy Press:

COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLBEING

Edited by Steve Cropper, Alison Porter, Gareth Williams, Sandra
Carlisle, Robert Moore, Martin O'Neill, Chris Roberts and Helen Snooks

For further details visit http://www.policypress.org.uk 


>>> Adam Oliver <[log in to unmask]> 12/05/2009 14:47 >>>
This might be relevant if we are talking about England circa 1850. In
the UK context, it is probably almost entirely irrelevant today (it may
well be relevant in the developing country context of course, but that
brings forth a whole different set of issues). I thought the UK members
of HEN actually wanted to try to address health inequalities in the UK.
We have a disgraced parliament (on the whole), a terminally ill Labour
government, an impending not-very-centre right Conservative Government
(we need a new political party here), the largest public sector deficit
in history, and a major economic recession. And people are quoting Marx.
(ok - I quoted Aristotle, but I thought his point, or interpretations
thereof were relevant)  

 

Do we need a dose of reality? 

 

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From: The Health Equity Network (HEN)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dennis
Raphael
Sent: 12 May 2009 12:23
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Subject: Re: Plato on Inequality

 

 


another philosopher? 

When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that
death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in
advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. 

When society places workers in such a position that they inevitably meet
a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death
by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands
of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they
cannot live - forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain
in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable
consequence - knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet
permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as
the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder
against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is,
because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems
a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of
commission. But murder it remains... 

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Engles_Condition_of_ 
the_Working_Class_in_England.pdf
<http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Engles_Condition_of 
_the_Working_Class_in_England.pdf>  

Dennis Raphael, PhD
Professor of Health Policy and Management
York University
4700 Keele Street
Room 418, HNES Building
Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3
416-736-2100, ext. 22134
email: [log in to unmask] 
http://www.atkinson.yorku.ca/draphael 

Of interest:

*NEW*  Social Determinants of Health: Canadian Perspectives, 2nd
edition, edited by Dennis Raphael
Forewords by Carolyn Bennett and Roy Romanow
<http://www.atkinson.yorku.ca/draphael> http://tinyurl.com/5l6yh9 

Poverty and Policy in Canada: Implications for Health and Quality of
Life by Dennis Raphael
Foreword by Jack Layton
<http://tinyurl.com/5l6yh9> http://tinyurl.com/2hg2df 

Staying Alive: Critical Perspectives on Health, Illness, and Health
Care, edited by Dennis Raphael, Toba Bryant, and Marcia Rioux
Foreword by Gary Teeple
<http://tinyurl.com/2hg2df> http://tinyurl.com/2zqrox 

See a lecture!  The Politics of Population Health
<http://tinyurl.com/2zqrox>
http://msl.stream.yorku.ca/mediasite/viewer/?peid=ac604170-9ccc-4268-a1a 
f-9a9e04b28e1d

Also, presentation on Politics and Health at the Centre for Health
Disparities in Cleveland Ohio
<http://msl.stream.yorku.ca/mediasite/viewer/?peid=ac604170-9ccc-4268-a1 
af-9a9e04b28e1d>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4129139685624192201&hl=en 

<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4129139685624192201&hl=en> 


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