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Re: Controller or Processor

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Paul Ticher <[log in to unmask]>

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Paul Ticher <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 7 May 2009 09:38:08 +0100

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There is a long-standing law (can't remember the title, but I'm sure someone 
on the list will know) which says that hotels must keep a record of the name 
and address of everyone who stays (and additional details if they are not a 
UK, or possibly EU, resident).

I assume this applies even when the accommodation is booked on their behalf 
for a conference.  My take on it would be that the hotel is processing that 
data for its own purposes, and would therefore be the Data Controller to 
that extent.

If the data is provided to the hotel by the conference organiser that should 
probably be mentioned in the fair processing statement; if the hotel 
collects it directly then it's entirely their business to get the Data 
Protection right (and not, for example, say on the form that they will use 
the data for marketing unless you write in to a separate address to tell 
them not to, as happened to me not long ago).


Paul Ticher
0116 273 8191
22 Stoughton Drive North, Leicester LE5 5UB


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Howarth" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: Controller or Processor


> Kevin,
>
>
>
> Funnily enough we are the other side of what you do. Another part of my
> company arranges a conference and it is made quite clear that we are a 
> data
> processor and that the controller is the Association on behalf of whom we
> take bookings and arrange accommodation etc. It's just about to start up
> again so the website is in a state of flux, but look at
> www.eip-conference.co.uk and privacy policy is at the bottom. Equally we
> would be happy for any pointers if anyone feels something is not quite
> right. We try to keep privacy very simple and straight-forward and any
> hotels used to book rooms are done through us and only a name is provided 
> to
> the hotel, so they can't do much anyway.
>
>
>
> However, one thing I am unsure about is if the hotel ask the attendee to
> fill out a registration card and what they so with that information - I 
> must
> look into that.
>
>
>
> Simon Howarth.
>
>
>
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Tarleton
> Sent: 06 May 2009 16:56
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] Controller or Processor
>
>
>
> As part of the improvement courses and programmes my organisation runs, we
> arrange large events at hotels. We have an event-management partner who
> collect the personal details of our attendees in order to book the hotel
> accommodation.
>
>
>
> I want to make sure we are doing everything we can to protect the personal
> information of our attendees, and at the same time I want to make sure 
> each
> organisation that processes their information is aware of its own
> responsibilities to the attendee and ourselves.
>
>
>
> My understanding is that my organisation will remain the Data Controller 
> no
> matter who is processing the information for us.
>
>
>
> Even so, I have several questions that have been bugging me that I was
> hoping list members could help me with:
>
>
>
> 1. Are the hotel the data processor for us or for our event-management
> partner?
>
> 2. Is there an argument that our event-management partner are the data
> controller and the hotel their data processor (as they collect information
> directly)? (Although we should have access to this information if we 
> require
> it)
>
> 3. Do our event-management partner remain a data processor because they 
> are
> collecting the information on our behalf?
>
>
>
> All opinions welcome!
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Tarleton
>
> Information Governance & Security Officer
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