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Re: Goldsmiths, University of London

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Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:34:13 -0400

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You're having fun, and it sounds marvelous.  Yes, "pointless and misdirected
work" costs much.  For those fortunate enough to be retired and pensioned
[as I am], it seems a heaven---and the *continuing* surprise of the heaven
compounds its joy.
Had to giggle at your buoying the boy about his great future in arts admin.

Best,

Judy

2009/4/26 Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>

> It is marvellous, yes; though I may have understated the work. Which I
> have learned to call _outputs_
>
> The show was to be recorded; but it was a administered for pedagogical
> results and I don't know how it went - you don't really train people to
> get things done unless there's a chance it'll screw up
>
> I need to check how that went but it hasn't been my highest priority
>
> I was only on stage about 10 mins out of 3 hours or so. I did Stein +
> Pound - two, in my judgement, not so good Pounds - started with Pound and
> then Gertie. And then off.
>
> Hours later I came back and performed Carra. We were directed to dress up
> on minimal expenses (and I got a pair of cheap smart shoes and a second
> hand jacket out of that!)... I didn't want to be crippled by the shoes so
> I went a size up and was able to clip clop round the stage. That was good
> because the last painting was of a donkey so I clopped towards it and
> brayed. Just the sort of modern art a late night drunk audience
> appreciated.
>
> I was into it though. I had set up the slide show to make the various
> pieces one piece and the student concerned undid all the work I had tried
> to save them, and very carefully relabled everything so it fitted *his
> style
>
> It's not the misunderstanding I mind but the arrogance in not checking. I
> told him he had a great future in arts admin and he looked pleased
>
> I tend to overstate the comfort of the job because it is so wonderful
> after many years previously working for others to look forward to going to
> work
>
> I am looking forward to it tomorrow. I was outraged quietly when we were
> locked out for xmas 2 weeks. But I do long hours. That's ok. It's
> pointless and misdirected work I abhor
>
> All best
>
> L
> On Sat, April 25, 2009 12:46, Judy Prince wrote:
> > Hi, Lawrence,
> > Sounds a marvelous post you have now----I'd love to hear your Blessed
> > Gertrude; when will you record it and post it online?  Our computers make
> > it soooo easy.
> >
> > Thanks for the fillip of Wyatt, oh the joy!
> >
> >
> > Best, and wishing you a renewed fund of project.
> >
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> > 2009/4/25 Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >
> >> Hi Each
> >> I had posted before, you know. In the last 12 months
> >> Xexoxial published a pamphlet of mine a while back and I rejoined the
> >> list to be able to circulate the advertisement. I didn’t say much
> >> beyond the advert – I didn’t say anything beyond it – and I
> >> suppose my understated return was missed in the excitement everyone felt
> >> at the prospect of being able to buy new work by me. It seemed right to
> >> rejoin given that I had been included in the anthology. Yet for a
> >> variety of reasons, I felt ok about lurking. It’s not really my style;
> >> but it’s been interesting. I don’t know that I have had that much to
> >> say that’s worth hearing. I have certainly been busy. Alison’s post
> >> though caught me unawares. I read most of what you all write and every
> >> post she writes because it is always pertinent and perceptive; but
> >> don’t tell her I said so. It might not be good for her if she knew
> >> the degree of my admiration! And on top of her voice, I heard Wyatt’s
> >> and that extraordinary poem. So I shared my internal voices Oh the joys
> >> and pitfalls of an always on connection. I sent it and then realised
> >> that I had spoken when I had a cloth over my head and was supposed to be
> >> a lamp standard. Oh well, so it goes, I thought; but it was nearly
> >> missed again, it seems! No harm is done by my outing and I am delighted
> >> at the warmth of the response. Thank you. Goldsmiths isn’t just an art
> >> college. I think the demi gods who steer us towards whatever it is
> >> would face a collapse of the London University federation with a brave
> >> equanimity. They might not even play up as the empire broke into
> >> Ptolemaic kingdoms; but they would play the game.
> >> It’s true that Goldsmiths has contributed an artist pickled in money;
> >> and I believe Ms V Westwood is one of ours, though I don’t have any of
> >> her ensembles myself – nor any Hirsts on myt dressing room wall –
> >> but it’s a moderately wide range of studies. Music is big. That’s
> >> where I am located, Music. There’s English. I think it’s _and
> >> comparative literature_. Psychology is huge. Media are getting a new
> >> building, perhaps the last new building in Educational Christendom.
> >> There’s Drama; I worked with them on
> >> a celebration of 100 years since Marinetti’s manifesto. (It’s not
> >> that I am much of a Futurist; they were more than silly like the rest of
> >> us; and I am appalled by the militarism of little boys with some
> >> privilege. But it was an opportunity to perform in front of a rather
> >> large audience, taking projected paintings by Carra as a jumping off
> >> point for vocal improv; and I also performed Stein’s Completed
> >> Portrait of Picasso to some hundreds of
> >> innocent victims. They took it well, which made listening over and over
> >> to Blessed Gertrude for weeks till I got her cadence or something of it
> >> more than worthwhile.) It’s an ok place to be.  As a man called out to
> >> me and my partner 20 years ago in Rethimnon “come to me; I have many
> >> hats and sunglasses† – only in this case it is a sound studio and
> >> very interesting people ready to listen and talk. If there were a decent
> >> transport service it would be ideal. I believe we have – if you’ll
> >> pardon the verb – Princess Beatrice. So I sit in my office. It’s a
> >> bit too warm for my taste; but there’s room enough. It’s opposite
> >> the toilets and the sound of the paper towel dispenser sometimes keeps
> >> me awake. It’s ok. Maybe sometimes one nudges another and asks Who is
> >> he? and maybe they respond that they don’t know; I just turned up last
> >> May and seem to have
> >> keys. I am just hoping that the clowns in Downing Street will have got
> >> the nicked money back by Spring 2011 when my fellowship ends so that I
> >> can propose another project. If anyone has any fellowships starting
> >> then, think of me. I work hard. Honest. I was listening to Heiner
> >> Goebbels last night. More Blessed Gertrude. And
> >> today, a new day has risen and, against the forecast I heard, it is
> >> raining, so not a day for felling a sycamore in my overgrown garden. So
> >>  there is a purpose to life. Thus liberated from work, I had better go
> >> out and get culture
> >>
> >> All best
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lawrence
> >>
> >>
> >> PS I recall Nathan Whiting. He read in London. 1970s. Amiable enough,
> >> He
> >> stood still to read but seemed to find the idea of writing without
> >> running implausible. Comparison with Reznikoff interesting.
> >> That's it
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, April 24, 2009 13:59, Barry Alpert wrote:
> >>
> >>> Welcome back to Poetryetc, Lawrence.  And congratulations on the
> >>> position at Goldsmiths, an art college which I didn't quite realize
> >>> was part of
> >> the
> >>> University of
> >>> London.  You've started me thinking about which of their faculty and
> >>> graduates I follow as a critic.
> >>>
> >>> Barry Alpert
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:12:48 +0100, Lawrence Upton wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> they send to me which some time did me cheat
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> L
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, April 23, 2009 01:35, Alison Croggon wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> They send them to me, promising all sorts of erectness and watches.
> >>>>  And I've never met a man called Alison. I don't think bots
> >>>> distinguish gender.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Lawrence Upton
> >>> AHRC Creative Research Fellow
> >>> Dept of Music
> >>> Goldsmiths, University of London
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lawrence Upton
> >> AHRC Creative Research Fellow
> >> Dept of Music
> >> Goldsmiths, University of London
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Lawrence Upton
> AHRC Creative Research Fellow
> Dept of Music
> Goldsmiths, University of London
>

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